TJC
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- Tony
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I have seen e-bikes that are barely discernible from a normal bike. Small hub motor, and integrated battery into the design. If you were not told, you would not know that it was powered by anything except the rider.
The line here on what should be allowed should not be based upon power or not, but on the parameters of power and the effects it has on nature. I've seen motorcycles and 4 wheel side by sides tear up long driven dirt roads, making them nearly impossible for larger vehicles to travel.
I think this is all about gradients. Every vehicle and person leaves their marks on the territory they inhabit. There is a place for all of these toys and people. And within the confines of each park - be it a city or county park or a national park, standards should be set by the localities tasked with maintaining the park. Places of remarkable beauty should be protected and treasured.
There are places for racetracks, and roller coasters.... and places should be set aside for all the other stratas of our toys.
Here in NC, there are lakes and sections of lakes that do not allow "motorized" boats. Kayaks and jon boats - some with small trolling motors are allowed in these area (it is about the wakes and noise created). Most lakes are open to everyone. But lots have these restrictions.
Having a >40mph speed boat in an area with kayaks is a recipe for dangerous situations to develop - a drunk or reckless kayaker is only a danger to himself. A reckless or drunk person in a boat out on the lake with a cooler full of beer threatens everyone on the lake.
I have never had alcohol, but when I was young I remember a buddy sitting on the bow of my 18' boat on the lake as we chased ducks in figure eights until the water was so choppy that it finally threw me into the passenger floorboard on one of the tight radius turns. My Buddy was directing me from the nose, and was hanging on for dear life! It was extreme fun and extreme stupidity.... and I still smile about it 40 years later. You simply can't do that in a kayak!
The same goes for everything else.... Remember the adage - "If we can ... we will!"
Common sense should rule the day. Unfortunately. the human race is and always will be in short supply!
The line here on what should be allowed should not be based upon power or not, but on the parameters of power and the effects it has on nature. I've seen motorcycles and 4 wheel side by sides tear up long driven dirt roads, making them nearly impossible for larger vehicles to travel.
I think this is all about gradients. Every vehicle and person leaves their marks on the territory they inhabit. There is a place for all of these toys and people. And within the confines of each park - be it a city or county park or a national park, standards should be set by the localities tasked with maintaining the park. Places of remarkable beauty should be protected and treasured.
There are places for racetracks, and roller coasters.... and places should be set aside for all the other stratas of our toys.
Here in NC, there are lakes and sections of lakes that do not allow "motorized" boats. Kayaks and jon boats - some with small trolling motors are allowed in these area (it is about the wakes and noise created). Most lakes are open to everyone. But lots have these restrictions.
Having a >40mph speed boat in an area with kayaks is a recipe for dangerous situations to develop - a drunk or reckless kayaker is only a danger to himself. A reckless or drunk person in a boat out on the lake with a cooler full of beer threatens everyone on the lake.
I have never had alcohol, but when I was young I remember a buddy sitting on the bow of my 18' boat on the lake as we chased ducks in figure eights until the water was so choppy that it finally threw me into the passenger floorboard on one of the tight radius turns. My Buddy was directing me from the nose, and was hanging on for dear life! It was extreme fun and extreme stupidity.... and I still smile about it 40 years later. You simply can't do that in a kayak!
The same goes for everything else.... Remember the adage - "If we can ... we will!"
Common sense should rule the day. Unfortunately. the human race is and always will be in short supply!
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