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Also keep in mind with the fast charging(specifically the supercharging) will degrade the life of the battery quicker vs the slow charge. A few tests were done with different EV vehicles and on average you can loose 4% health in a year on the batt if constantly using the supercharger.
That's the current technology available in America. China has this covered I recently saw.
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That's the current technology available in America. China has this covered I recently saw.
We shall see. With lead acid and lithium batteries you want to keep the battery within a certain temperature while charging. If you don't it will degrade the battery. Also if you get to an area where it's too cold then a lithium battery won't even charge
 

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You really want to push this?

Calling it a swasticars. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

Yes that's political.

We all know why some are triggered by Musk when just a couple years ago he was the darling of one party for his EVs. So yes it is political and ends here.


This forum is really not the same anymore. Maybe everyone needs to read the rules again and familiarize themselves with them. We wont tolerate anyone swearing at another member or crying about their political dislike for another member or political party whether he's not "technically " a political leader. I've seen it in the posts way too often now and it's going to stop. We never had these issues this often before and if people feel the need to argue about politics there's Reddit, which is a toxic waste dump.

**ETA...When someone mentions the government, or a representative or even Musk it's not a huge deal. It's adding the hateful labels after that now makes it political because we all know the intent.

Example:

Biden just signed a $7,500 EV rebate today. That's fine in an EV thread.

Adding the swasticars label to it now makes it political because we all know the intent of it.


My strong dislike for Tesla is personal. Not political. It started about 13 years ago. As a potential vendor I had to visit the site, view the issues, talk about potential solutions, etc. Fast forward a bit, sit in one of their meeting rooms reviewing the proposal line by flipping line. I have seen, first hand, how this company functions…. Or doesn’t. Then after winning the business, delivering and installing the product, now spend MONTHS trying to collect the money owed. Payment terms clearly spelled out in the contract they signed. I’ve lived this process MULTIPLE times with that organization. Never changes. And having to chase owed money from large organizations never fails to anger me. And yes, I’ve dealt with Ford, GM and Dodge (or Fiat, or Sillyantis or whatever their name is this week). Difference? Never, never had to chase them for money owed.

No argument here. I simply wanted to explain how my opinion of Tesla is direct first hand personal experience. Not politics. It’s all cash and commission related. When an organization impacts my bank account, in Tesla’s case negatively, it gets my attention.
 
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My strong dislike for Tesla is personal. Not political. It started about 13 years ago. As a potential vendor I had to visit the site, view the issues, talk about potential solutions, etc. Fast forward a bit, sit in one of their meeting rooms reviewing the proposal line by flipping line. I have seen, first hand, how this company functions…. Or doesn’t. Then after winning the business, delivering and installing the product, now spend MONTHS trying to collect the money owed. Payment terms clearly spelled out in the contract they signed. I’ve lived this process MULTIPLE times with that organization. Never changes. And having to chase owed money from large organizations never fails to anger me. And yes, I’ve dealt with Ford, GM and Dodge (or Fiat, or Sillyantis or whatever their name is this week). Difference? Never, never had to chase them for money owed.

No argument here. I simply wanted to explain how my opinion of Tesla is direct first hand personal experience. Not politics. It’s all cash and commission related. When an organization impacts my bank account, in Tesla’s case negatively, it gets my attention.
No problem and I can now see your point and my bad for ASSuming it was.

But the way things are now it's an easy assumption and things are just getting out of hand everywhere today because of politics. That's why I stay far away from it and haven't watched the news in years.
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