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You make my point. It doesn't matter why it failed. The point is... it failed. The more stress, the greater the possibility of catastrophic failure.

Things move slowly, until they don't.
Well in reading the Texas grid article - besides numerous board members resigning the CEO of ERCOT was fired - so for some the why does matter . And making EVs the culprit in the deficiencies of the grid matters to some as many experts agree that they aren't going to cause grid collapses anytime soon, that sort of misinformation just feeds into the anti EV crowd. And EVs have growing momentum and lots of investment money behind them so grid deficiency or not there are here to stay.
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Can't see the article but will this service be available to non Tesla EV owners ? If so I'd expect to see a huge increase in EV Hummer sales in the lone star state. Kudos to Tesla for being creative .
Sounds like it is for Tesla customers only. I'm sure it'll eventually open up to others for a small fee of course.

Here's the article so you can read it.

Tesla on Wednesday announced plans to roll out unlimited overnight home charging to customers in Texas for $30 per month.

Drew Baglino, Tesla's senior vice president of engineering, said during the company's Investor Day that customers in Texas would be offered the retail electricity plan in July as part of "Tesla Electric," which provides sustainable energy to homes.


"This is part of reducing the total cost of ownership of our vehicles and the reason why we can do this is because Texas has a ton of wind. And in Texas, the wind blows at night," Baglino said.

Last year, Texas generated the most wind powercompared with all other US states, according to a February report by nonprofit news organization Climate Central.

The $30 monthly subscription was a way to incentivize Tesla customers to charge their vehicles in their homes during the night directly via a source of renewable energy, Baglino said.

Charging an EV at home depends on electricity rates and the range of the car.

Per car-buying guide Kelley Blue Book, analyst and journalist John Voelcker said that from October 2022, the US household average was about 16 cents per kWh. This meant it would cost around $56 per month to charge an electric car at home.

Customers can only sign up for Tesla Electric if they have the company's Powerwall energy-storage battery and live in an area of Texas that offers retail choice, per the website.

Tesla's charging subscription was included in a three-hour presentation at Investor Day. Baglino presented data from the company's virtual Tesla Electric powerplant in South Australia, which served 5,000 customers in 2022.

Those who used default utility services paid around $142 a month, he said. Whereas, customers who were using Tesla Solar and Powerwall, which were not interacting with the grid, paid $69 a month.
 

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Sounds like it is for Tesla customers only. I'm sure it'll eventually open up to others for a small fee of course.

Here's the article so you can read it.
thanks sorry to be redundant or so cynical but I still find it ironic that this is taking place place in Texas after their near grid collapse was initially blamed on renewal energy sources, but Texas has taken corrective action and no disputing the strength of their economy - including a growing sector based on renewal energy. From a cnbc report, should you read the article it does bring up how blame for 2021 was falsely put on renewables.

Texas led the country in building new renewable energy projects last year, according to a report released this week by the American Clean Power Association, continuing a promising trend in a state that’s largely dependent on planet-warming fossil fuels.

Texas installed 7,352 megawatts of new wind, solar and energy installation projects in 2021, significantly outpacing California, which installed 2,697 megawatts of storage projects. Oklahoma, Florida and New Mexico were the other top producing states.

Texas also surpassed other states in the amount of storage it has under construction or in advanced development, reaching nearly 20,000 megawatts, followed by California at nearly 14,000 megawatts.

Texas is experiencing a rise in renewable energy deployment not necessarily due to concerns over human-caused climate change, but rather because of the low costs of renewable energy sources like solar and wind development.

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I find it especially ironic it's in Texas. We have capacity, we just need to spread the load and charge at times when we have excess electricity aka overnight

We can't charge all EV's at once - is a true statement
We can't fuel up all gas car at once - is also a true statement
 

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I find it especially ironic it's in Texas. We have capacity, we just need to spread the load and charge at times when we have excess electricity aka overnight

We can't charge all EV's at once - is a true statement
We can't fuel up all gas car at once - is also a true statement
What I didn't know is that Texas produces wind energy nearly 3 times more than any other state - they must have a lot of wind and reasonable environmental policies, with Tesla HQ in Austin could they possibly snatch the lead in EV ownership, oh the times they are a changing.

"Texas is the runaway leader in wind, generating over 92 Terawatt-hours of electricity during a year, more than the next three top states (Iowa, Oklahoma, and Kansas) combined."
 

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The country may not be able to meet its energy needs with its own resources at peak loads in the coming years, a study says

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by 2025 the country will lack some four gigawatts of power capacity, while by 2030 the deficit will increase to 30 gigawatts, the company said.

“So we’re heading toward a significant shortage: 30GW corresponds to the capacity of about 30 large thermal power plants,” the study warned. Analysts claim the country will not be able to cover its energy needs with its own resources at peak loads, and by 2030 up to 100 power outages may occur, with the longest phase lasting about 21 hours. The analysts also warned that Berlin will not be able to give up gas in the next ten years.
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