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im looking at a set of Lock Offroad wheels that are now made with +25mm offset, and are made for the new toyota hubs at 95.1mm would I still need a hub ring for the 1mm per side? Nobody makes a set of rings that thin to keep the wheel hubcentric. Does anyone think this might cause balancing issues with 35's? thanks
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285/70-17...no hub ring...no problem providing you torque your lugs down with proper technique...

Like all taboo subjects like LED bulbs and wheel spacers, you'll get passionate arguments...
 
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If you install the wheels properly, you don't need a hub ring. hub rings are to save people who don't know what they're doing.

With the wheel off the ground, install the lugs and tighten them in star pattern. The first time you tighten, you just want enough pressure to center the wheel. The second time, you should tighten them down less than 100 ft/lbs (but more than before). Drop the tire to the ground, just enough to stop the wheel from turning (as little weight on the wheel as possible to make that happen) and torque the lugs in star pattern. After all lugs are torqued, you can lower the wheel completely.
 

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285/70-17...no hub ring...no problem providing you torque your lugs down with proper technique...

Like all taboo subjects like LED bulbs and wheel spacers, you'll get passionate arguments...
If you install the wheels properly, you don't need a hub ring. hub rings are to save people who don't know what they're doing.

With the wheel off the ground, install the lugs and tighten them in star pattern. The first time you tighten, you just want enough pressure to center the wheel. The second time, you should tighten them down less than 100 ft/lbs (but more than before). Drop the tire to the ground, just enough to stop the wheel from turning (as little weight on the wheel as possible to make that happen) and torque the lugs in star pattern. After all lugs are torqued, you can lower the wheel completely.
Following up on what both Sid and Colo_Ranger said, as long as the wheels are torqued properly you shouldn't have to have the hub centering rings, albeit I am still running the stock size tires on my Fuel Shok wheels. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the same principle applies to larger diameter tires. Just my two cents!😁🤘
 


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If you install the wheels properly, you don't need a hub ring. hub rings are to save people who don't know what they're doing.

With the wheel off the ground, install the lugs and tighten them in star pattern. The first time you tighten, you just want enough pressure to center the wheel. The second time, you should tighten them down less than 100 ft/lbs (but more than before). Drop the tire to the ground, just enough to stop the wheel from turning (as little weight on the wheel as possible to make that happen) and torque the lugs in star pattern. After all lugs are torqued, you can lower the wheel completely.
Thank you! Hub centric wheels and HC rings are necessary for shops who don't have time to fiddle with mounting a wheel with proper technique...they hook the wheel and let the ring center while they zip the torque gun as fast as it can run...I've rotated my wheels countless times over the 150K miles and not a single time was my wheels off centered WITHOUT hub centric wheel or rings...
 
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why not make some hub rings you are a machinist lol
because making a set of .032" per side rings doesnt sound like it would be cause for alarm, but i wanted to check with the all knowing club of opinions before saying screw it...

I'm just checking to see if anyone else feels its negligible amount of gap to even matter if you need hub rings or not...
 
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because making a set of .032" per side rings doesnt sound like it would be cause for alarm, but i wanted to check with the all knowing club of opinions before saying screw it...

I'm just checking to see if anyone else feels its negligible amount of gap to even matter if you need hub rings or not...

I'm going to add 'All Knowing Club' to my signature. I'm proud to be part of that group. :LOL:

Lug nuts are centric too, meaning, if you don't ugga dugga the absolute f--- out of them on the first pass, they will center your wheels. This is why your first star pass should be just tight enough to locate your wheel into position.

Toyota has the shank style (dumbest, second only to lug studs) that can cause issues when you tighten them without centering first.
 

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I have 285/75/17 on standard Roush rims no spacers or anything
no problems...
 

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I'm going to add 'All Knowing Club' to my signature. I'm proud to be part of that group. :LOL:

Lug nuts are centric too, meaning, if you don't ugga dugga the absolute f--- out of them on the first pass, they will center your wheels. This is why your first star pass should be just tight enough to locate your wheel into position.

Toyota has the shank style (dumbest, second only to lug studs) that can cause issues when you tighten them without centering first.
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I have 285/75/17 on standard Roush rims no spacers or anything
no problems...
what are the specs on those though? That’s important. Also, Roush wheels are made for the Ranger, which means the hubs would be properly sized.
 

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I'm going to add 'All Knowing Club' to my signature. I'm proud to be part of that group. :LOL:

Lug nuts are centric too, meaning, if you don't ugga dugga the absolute f--- out of them on the first pass, they will center your wheels. This is why your first star pass should be just tight enough to locate your wheel into position.

Toyota has the shank style (dumbest, second only to lug studs) that can cause issues when you tighten them without centering first.
Done!
 

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I'm going to add 'All Knowing Club' to my signature. I'm proud to be part of that group. :LOL:

Lug nuts are centric too, meaning, if you don't ugga dugga the absolute f--- out of them on the first pass, they will center your wheels. This is why your first star pass should be just tight enough to locate your wheel into position.

Toyota has the shank style (dumbest, second only to lug studs) that can cause issues when you tighten them without centering first.
This isnt a Club, its a Cult
Honor thy Ranger ...
AGREED! On all of those fronts. Sid, Colo_Ranger and Grandaccess all valuable information, plus the laughs.
Excellent!😎🤘
 

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what are the specs on those though? That’s important. Also, Roush wheels are made for the Ranger, which means the hubs would be properly sized.
this was all done by the dealer in MD when I picked it up so I am not sure what the offset specs on the rims are :(
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this was all done by the dealer in MD when I picked it up so I am not sure what the offset specs on the rims are :(
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I googled the wheels, they’re a +55 offset, which is pretty standard for all Ranger factory wheels.
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