New Intercooler

[Dgc333]

Just a few comments;
1. Whether you are using a SCT device, ProCal4, MyCalibrator or anyone of the many cell phone apps to monitor boost they all are plucking the same data from the CAN bus the ECU uses for controlling boost. Depending on the refresh rate of the display you may see a lag between devices but once you are steady state they will all read the same. There could possibly be a difference if you are using an aftermarket boost gauge that is plumbed into the intake manifold in a different location than the sensor providing data to the ECU. There will also can be accuracy differences with an aftermarket gauge.

2. Some where around 95% of your driving is off boost so the intercooler really doesn't have any impact. It's only under WOT and towing heavy loads that the capacity of the intercooler to remove heat comes into play. The intercooler on the Ranger is significantly larger than what comes on the Ecoboost Mustang and Focus RS and both of those versions of the 2.3 make significantly more power. The Ranger has a bigger intercooler because it expected to be towing relatively heavy loads. Will the Ranger benefit from an aftermarket intercooler? For the vast majority of people, even those with a tune most likely not.

3. Aftermarket recirculating/blow off valves like the GFB DV+ only impact boost in that they are less likely to leak boost pressure. At stock boost levels the factory recirculating valve is perfectly adequate. An aftermarket one that does not leak at higher boost pressures may allow the engine to see the boost that the tune is commanding. The purposes of the recirculating/blow off valve is to release pressure when you close the throttle. This prevents the pressure pulse that will travel back to the turbo and stop it from spinning which increases turbo lag when you get back on the throttle.

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[VAMike]

How is this claim of "80% colder than stock" calculated? Are they using Fahrenheit, Celsius, or perhaps from absolute zero? Hmmm

They consulted with marketing.

 

[Travis9935]

Just a few comments;
1. Whether you are using a SCT device, ProCal4, MyCalibrator or anyone of the many cell phone apps to monitor boost they all are plucking the same data from the CAN bus the ECU uses for controlling boost. Depending on the refresh rate of the display you may see a lag between devices but once you are steady state they will all read the same. There could possibly be a difference if you are using an aftermarket boost gauge that is plumbed into the intake manifold in a different location than the sensor providing data to the ECU. There will also can be accuracy differences with an aftermarket gauge.

2. Some where around 95% of your driving is off boost so the intercooler really doesn't have any impact. It's only under WOT and towing heavy loads that the capacity of the intercooler to remove heat comes into play. The intercooler on the Ranger is significantly larger than what comes on the Ecoboost Mustang and Focus RS and both of those versions of the 2.3 make significantly more power. The Ranger has a bigger intercooler because it expected to be towing relatively heavy loads. Will the Ranger benefit from an aftermarket intercooler? For the vast majority of people, even those with a tune most likely not.

3. Aftermarket recirculating/blow off valves like the GFB DV+ only impact boost in that they are less likely to leak boost pressure. At stock boost levels the factory recirculating valve is perfectly adequate. An aftermarket one that does not leak at higher boost pressures may allow the engine to see the boost that the tune is commanding. The purposes of the recirculating/blow off valve is to release pressure when you close the throttle. This prevents the pressure pulse that will travel back to the turbo and stop it from spinning which increases turbo lag when you get back on the throttle.

Yeah I wouldn't count on GFB DV+ holding anything extra. They didn't fair very well with the EA888 platform. Actually the Turbosmart did. So I purchased one for my Ranger... That thing leaked boost while towing. Never had a issue with the oem leaking boost with my Livernois tune. As far as intercoolers go, my Temps go up pretty good in the city during the summer. I can see a aftermarket intercooler being beneficial. Why I just purchased a Mountune unit. Screw Mishimoto their products are garbage. I have their ic pipes and I've been waiting on my replacement tb coupler for 3+ months now. The og one lasted a month before cracking out. I will never buy any of their cheap made garbage again. Customer service sucks too!

 

[Dgc333]

As far as intercoolers go, my Temps go up pretty good in the city during the summer. I can see a aftermarket intercooler being beneficial.

That is to be expected during city driving you are not moving fast enough long enough to move sufficient air across the intercooler. You are going see that with any intercooler.

 

[Travis9935]

That is to be expected during city driving you are not moving fast enough long enough to move sufficient air across the intercooler. You are going see that with any intercooler.

Either way the full aluminum end caps will dissipate heat quicker than the oem plastic. Oem parts are cheaply engineered to just get by. When you start adding more power into the mix they could use a lil added cooling. Any way you look at it its all a waste of money with most aftermarket equipment anyway. People buy exhausts and intakes when most oem flow more than enough to support even tuned vehicles. I just mod the shit out of everything I buy. ???

 

[Superdannyboy]

Just a few comments;
1. Whether you are using a SCT device, ProCal4, MyCalibrator or anyone of the many cell phone apps to monitor boost they all are plucking the same data from the CAN bus the ECU uses for controlling boost. Depending on the refresh rate of the display you may see a lag between devices but once you are steady state they will all read the same. There could possibly be a difference if you are using an aftermarket boost gauge that is plumbed into the intake manifold in a different location than the sensor providing data to the ECU. There will also can be accuracy differences with an aftermarket gauge.

2. Some where around 95% of your driving is off boost so the intercooler really doesn't have any impact. It's only under WOT and towing heavy loads that the capacity of the intercooler to remove heat comes into play. The intercooler on the Ranger is significantly larger than what comes on the Ecoboost Mustang and Focus RS and both of those versions of the 2.3 make significantly more power. The Ranger has a bigger intercooler because it expected to be towing relatively heavy loads. Will the Ranger benefit from an aftermarket intercooler? For the vast majority of people, even those with a tune most likely not.

3. Aftermarket recirculating/blow off valves like the GFB DV+ only impact boost in that they are less likely to leak boost pressure. At stock boost levels the factory recirculating valve is perfectly adequate. An aftermarket one that does not leak at higher boost pressures may allow the engine to see the boost that the tune is commanding. The purposes of the recirculating/blow off valve is to release pressure when you close the throttle. This prevents the pressure pulse that will travel back to the turbo and stop it from spinning which increases turbo lag when you get back on the throttle.

I have a comment regarding your point #2. So I have a classmate that drives a mustang with the Ecoboost. He told me he replaced his IC because "it comes as stock trash" and he recommended I do the same. I think swapping out the pipes would be a really good bang for the buck for the Ranger.

We were also parked next to each other one day revving our engines and closing the throttle to hear the tsss from the BOV. I bought a turbosmart and he paid $4 at home Depot for some tube and his was much louder. Then today he said he removed the tube because he was leaking boost.

 

[Dgc333]

Either way the full aluminum end caps will dissipate heat quicker than the oem plastic. Oem parts are cheaply engineered to just get by. When you start adding more power into the mix they could use a lil added cooling. Any way you look at it its all a waste of money with most aftermarket equipment anyway. People buy exhausts and intakes when most oem flow more than enough to support even tuned vehicles. I just mod the shit out of everything I buy. ???

I can't argue with your post except for; "Oem parts are cheaply engineered to just get by."

Having been an engineer for the past 45 years I can tell you unequivocally that there is nothing "cheap" about the engineering that goes into developing a part that meets performance requirements, durability requirements, cost goals and can be manufactured. It is quite amazing that the level of performance and reliability we all enjoy these days costs as little as it does.

If the Ranger was built with every aftermarket part that is deemed to be better it would very likely cost $150,000 or more. Just look at the super cars out there that are designed and built with a cost be dammed attitude that are sold for more than a $1,000,000.

 

[Dgc333]

I have a comment regarding your point #2. So I have a classmate that drives a mustang with the Ecoboost. He told me he replaced his IC because "it comes as stock trash" and he recommended I do the same. I think swapping out the pipes would be a really good bang for the buck for the Ranger.

We were also parked next to each other one day revving our engines and closing the throttle to hear the tsss from the BOV. I bought a turbosmart and he paid $4 at home Depot for some tube and his was much louder. Then today he said he removed the tube because he was leaking boost.

The 2.3 in the Ecoboost Mustang is essentially the same as the one in the Ranger but the Ecoboost Mustang engine makes significantly more HP and torque compared to the Ranger. Yet the intercooler in the Mustang is about 1/2 the size of the one in the Ranger. Even the aftermarket ones that fit in the stock location don't appear to have as much capacity as the one in the Ranger.

It is not hard to push the Ecoboost Mustang hard enough to get it to heat soak and lose power and that is why it is one of the first mods people make. I drove my 15 Ecoboost Mustang for just shy of 40k miles with the stock intercooler. Would I experience heat soak? Yes, but for daily driver and occasional spirited driving it really wasn't an issue. It was the few very vocal folks that trashed it that convinced the masses that it was junk.

Would Ranger benefit from an aftermarket intercooler? Sure in certain circumstances like; a lot of heavy towing in hot environments, a lot of aggressive off road driving lots of drag strip use. I would say if you use the truck as a daily driver, tow occasionally and maybe go to the drag strip on e in awhile it's not needed.

Most all factory turbo engines use a recirculating valve. This is different than a blow off valve in that when it opens instead of dumping that excess pressure into the atmosphere it is routed back into the intake infront of the turbo inlet. This is done for noise control. A cheap mod on the Ecoboost Mustang is to disconnect the hose from the intake and let the valve vent to atmosphere for the classic Blow Off Valve hiss. The trip to Home Depot is for a cap to put over the fitting you took the hose off of so you are sucking unfiltered air into the engine.

No idea whether the Ranger really benefits from charge pipes or not. On the Ecoboost Mustang it is not something you would do until you made a lot of other mods.

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