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There are no seals in the turbo. There are tiny little piston rings on the cold and hot side. They ride in a bore and have a tiny end gap and as long as the bearings are tight they do their job. Most likely a bearing failure causing the piston rings to not fit in their bore anymore and thus passing oil. The cause of the bearing failure should be determined to eliminate the possibility of damaging the new turbo. Other scenarios include a dirty air filter causing restriction or high crankcase pressure not allowing turbo drain oil to exit the turbo.
Again the root cause of failure should be determined to ensure that the new turbo lives a long life.
Thanks for the info. I was just referencing what the tech told me. I do have a question for ya. Will adding a catch can help with oil entering the turbo? I know people praise catch cans and then some say it doesnt do anything helpful. Im not entirely sure with all the research Ive done, but advice would be much appreciated!!
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Thanks for the info. I was just referencing what the tech told me. I do have a question for ya. Will adding a catch can help with oil entering the turbo? I know people praise catch cans and then some say it doesnt do anything helpful. Im not entirely sure with all the research Ive done, but advice would be much appreciated!!
Did they say there was oil between the air cleaner and inlet of the turbo?
 
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Did they say there was oil between the air cleaner and inlet of the turbo?
No, only that the turbo seal was bad. They did showed me a video of the turbine blades completely destroyed and the cold side of the charge pipe was leaking oil.
 

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No, only that the turbo seal was bad. They did showed me a video of the turbine blades completely destroyed and the cold side of the charge pipe was leaking oil.
Yeah most likely a bearing failure first then oil leakage. That video would be interesting to see if possible.
 
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Yeah most likely a bearing failure first then oil leakage. That video would be interesting to see if possible.
Ill try to upload it here!
 


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Yeah most likely a bearing failure first then oil leakage. That video would be interesting to see if possible.
Here is a link to the file:
 

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WOW! Covered, lucky you.
Is it me or 3k is a really good price??? I would have thought at least double that? Then again, here in Canada, everything is twice the $.
 

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Ok, some observations from the video. Particularly the compressor wheel damage. It looks like bearing failure allowed edges of compressor wheel to make contact with the housing. The nut for the compressor wheel is missing. Leading edges of the compressor wheel are damaged (dings) along with the inlet neck of the housing. Most likely the nut worked itself off after the compressor wheel made contact with the housing causing the dings to the wheel and inlet of the housing. The nut is left hand thread and self tightens as it rotates normally. When the spinning wheel contacts the housing it stalls the shaft and can make nut unthread. The nut then bounces around in the housing causing the dings.
So two questions arise. One,what caused the bearings failure? Two, where did the nut go? ( its too big to fit between the blades of the wheel normally).
Important to know before sticking a new turbo on.
Again without seeing the exhaust side this is what I’m speculating that happened.
 
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Hey appreciate the insight. Im not sure exactly what the cause of failure was. They are completely pulling everything apart and cleaning out everything from the intercooler, throttle, and piping. I can ask when I pick up my truck either today or Monday to see the exact cause. Since Ford is doing the repair through warranty is will be covered if another accident occurs where my turbo is obliterated again. I really hope that they can answer the question of what was the cause of this failure. Once I get that information I'll report back here!
Also the question about the catch can. Do you think it would be a good idea to just invest into something like a UPR dual valve catch can?
 

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Hey appreciate the insight. Im not sure exactly what the cause of failure was. They are completely pulling everything apart and cleaning out everything from the intercooler, throttle, and piping. I can ask when I pick up my truck either today or Monday to see the exact cause. Since Ford is doing the repair through warranty is will be covered if another accident occurs where my turbo is obliterated again. I really hope that they can answer the question of what was the cause of this failure. Once I get that information I'll report back here!
Also the question about the catch can. Do you think it would be a good idea to just invest into something like a UPR dual valve catch can?
That’s up to you. But I can pretty much assure you that a lack of a catch can had nothing to do with this failure.
 

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That’s up to you. But I can pretty much assure you that a lack of a catch can had nothing to do with this failure.
No but if he installed a vent to the atmosphere bov I wouldn't rule that out as contributing factor. Modern turbos are generally robust but they do depend on proper balance to maintain longevity, running higher than stock boost levels and suddenly dumping pressure can create unbalanced forces on the turbine and compressor side. Know a guy who was running high boost on his modified audis and went thru 2 turbos so he went back to a bov that vented into the intake and no more blown turbos.
 
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No but if he installed a vent to the atmosphere bov I wouldn't rule that out as contributing factor. Modern turbos are generally robust but they do depend on proper balance to maintain longevity, running higher than stock boost levels and suddenly dumping pressure can create unbalanced forces on the turbine and compressor side. Know a guy who was running high boost on his modified audis and went thru 2 turbos so he went back to a bov that vented into the intake and no more blown turbos.
I do have a BOV for the last 8 months. The problem with trying to diagnose the issue is it literally could be anything. The best I can do is ask when I go pick up my truck what could have been the problem. I know I did ask if anybody else had an issue initially because of the black smoke. I also did want to document this so that if anyone else was going through a similar situation this could help as a solution. I will report back once I get the full scope of how it happened. Appreciate y’all!
 

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I do have a BOV for the last 8 months. The problem with trying to diagnose the issue is it literally could be anything. The best I can do is ask when I go pick up my truck what could have been the problem. I know I did ask if anybody else had an issue initially because of the black smoke. I also did want to document this so that if anyone else was going through a similar situation this could help as a solution. I will report back once I get the full scope of how it happened. Appreciate y’all!
I wouldn't hold my breath expecting that they can precisely determine what was the root cause of the failure, it might even be something from the factory, but running high boost levels and even a slight imbalance in the turbo can start down the path of eventual failure.
But outstanding that you are getting Ford to pay for it.
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