Vehicle Nannies are ANNOYING in new vehicles

[Chris M]

There seems to be about an equal number of folks here who like some or most of the driver assist features and those who don't. While I don't have any empirical facts to back it up, I have a hunch that those who turn the stuff off or don't order it in the first place when new, most are folks who grew up riding motorcycles or later ATVs, UTVs at an early age, or farm implements, or experience with big trucks.
My personal background is learning to drive on an International Farmall M when I was 14. Later I got into motorcycling and still ride today. Much later I drove semi trucks for 25 years and ~3.5 million miles, with no chargeable accidents and three two tickets (fought and won one).
My point is that those of us who were exposed to operating basic vehicles and motorcycles from an early age, and/or who have driven professionally generally have a better skillset than those who started driving later in life or drive seldomly.
Operating motorcycles and heavy trucks require a higher "Be Here Now" factor or alertness in other words, than driving today's light vehicles, and much of the assist features are not needed or wanted.
If CoPilot 360 and such features help you be a better, safer driver, then that's a good thing. But for me, the tech allows me to take my eye off the ball too much.

I know to dim my lights when I can see the oncoming vehicle's single headlight separate into two, or their flare as I top a hill, square off turns at an intersection- its a corner, not a curve, two second following distance, at a stop sign or signal, stop when the side mirror appears to be almost directly over the stop line- your bumper will be right at the line; try it at a big box parking lot.

Driving is a privilege. It is your right to do it well.

Amen.

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[LaBalbe]

There seems to be about an equal number of folks here who like some or most of the driver assist features and those who don't. While I don't have any empirical facts to back it up, I have a hunch that those who turn the stuff off or don't order it in the first place when new, most are folks who grew up riding motorcycles or later ATVs, UTVs at an early age, or farm implements, or experience with big trucks.
My personal background is learning to drive on an International Farmall M when I was 14. Later I got into motorcycling and still ride today. Much later I drove semi trucks for 25 years and ~3.5 million miles, with no chargeable accidents and three two tickets (fought and won one).
My point is that those of us who were exposed to operating basic vehicles and motorcycles from an early age, and/or who have driven professionally generally have a better skillset than those who started driving later in life or drive seldomly.
Operating motorcycles and heavy trucks require a higher "Be Here Now" factor or alertness in other words, than driving today's light vehicles, and much of the assist features are not needed or wanted.
If CoPilot 360 and such features help you be a better, safer driver, then that's a good thing. But for me, the tech allows me to take my eye off the ball too much.

I know to dim my lights when I can see the oncoming vehicle's single headlight separate into two, or their flare as I top a hill, square off turns at an intersection- its a corner, not a curve, two second following distance, at a stop sign or signal, stop when the side mirror appears to be almost directly over the stop line- your bumper will be right at the line; try it at a big box parking lot.

Driving is a privilege. It is your right to do it well.

Totally agree; for the record, had a small enduro bike first that I rode on the streets to school (nothing like being the airbag for the vehicle to learn to pay attention), then learned to drive on a stick-shift (with hand-crank windows, oh my!!), and even drove a school bus for a little bit.

 

[awd.nv]

There seems to be about an equal number of folks here who like some or most of the driver assist features and those who don't. While I don't have any empirical facts to back it up, I have a hunch that those who turn the stuff off or don't order it in the first place when new, most are folks who grew up riding motorcycles or later ATVs, UTVs at an early age, or farm implements, or experience with big trucks.
My personal background is learning to drive on an International Farmall M when I was 14. Later I got into motorcycling and still ride today. Much later I drove semi trucks for 25 years and ~3.5 million miles, with no chargeable accidents and three two tickets (fought and won one).
My point is that those of us who were exposed to operating basic vehicles and motorcycles from an early age, and/or who have driven professionally generally have a better skillset than those who started driving later in life or drive seldomly.
Operating motorcycles and heavy trucks require a higher "Be Here Now" factor or alertness in other words, than driving today's light vehicles, and much of the assist features are not needed or wanted.
If CoPilot 360 and such features help you be a better, safer driver, then that's a good thing. But for me, the tech allows me to take my eye off the ball too much.

I know to dim my lights when I can see the oncoming vehicle's single headlight separate into two, or their flare as I top a hill, square off turns at an intersection- its a corner, not a curve, two second following distance, at a stop sign or signal, stop when the side mirror appears to be almost directly over the stop line- your bumper will be right at the line; try it at a big box parking lot.

Driving is a privilege. It is your right to do it well.

I wonder, my first car in 2001 which I still have is a 66 Mustang stick shift. You have to be intentional when driving. Then with the engine upgrades and spool, if you weren't paying attention the car would kill you. It made for a fun car but you had to know the limits.

One thing they told us at Mercedes technical training is that it was the USA market that forced Benz to put cup holders in their vehicle. Many years later and we have technology that will change lanes for you in an F150, unless it is 100% self driving, that should NOT be in a truck of all things especially. Our loaner F150 has that feature, tried it and it wasn't even a butter smooth lane change, an officer would pull me over thinking I am drunk I am sure if they were behind me.

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