UK Inches Closer To Eliminating Private Car Ownership

[dtech]

Well on the subject of N'tl Parks - in Nov took a ride with wife over to Mesa Verde NP , we hiked some trails and visited some cliff dwellings, the park was so deserted I could swear I heard the whispers of the Anasazi - the so called ancient ones in the canyons. We saw 4 other people on our hikes.

But wait we ran into a park ranger and he corrected me - it is no longer appropriate to refer to those cliff dwelling native americans as the Anasazi, the current nomenclature is ancestral puebloans, Anasazi is now considered disrespectful to the spirits of the ancestral puebloans, according to the nice young ranger - whom I couldn't help but notice was packing a pistol and wearing a bullet proof vest.

it is rumored that they disappeared from the area centuries ago owing to high property and gasoline taxes .

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[dtech]

Follow the beavers.

yeah great article, off topic but if you've seen the work of beavers - pretty amazing, link to article about how they go about their work and the proportions of their dams.

https://northernwoodlands.org/articles/article/a_logger_with_four_feet_and_a_tail

 

[Langwilliams]

once the scientists proclaim that we have won

They will never declare victory over climate change. Everything is climate change. If it's too warm, too cold, too wet they blame climate change even though thousands of years ago where we live used to be under 2 miles of ice, climate change is man's fault. This gives them the power to tell us how to live. I'm all for keeping things as clean as possible, recycling but that isn't the "green agenda". The green agenda is an anti capitalist agenda.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

They will never declare victory over climate change. Everything is climate change. If it's too warm, too cold, too wet they blame climate change even though thousands of years ago where we live used to be under 2 miles of ice, climate change is man's fault. This gives them the power to tell us how to live. Extract $$$ from us. I'm all for keeping things as clean as possible, recycling but that isn't the "green agenda". The green agenda is an anti capitalist agenda.

Edited for truth.

I would probably be more open to the strident claims of impending doom if the most vocal among them weren't taking private jets to get around and then going back to their mansions that use more energy than the average village..

But hey, all these problems can be solved if you'll just get up off your wallet and sacrifice your money and way of life so that they can keep the jet refueled and the mansion warm. The pool needs cleaning too, you know.

 

[Langwilliams]

I would probably be more open to the strident claims of impending doom if the most vocal among them weren't taking private jets to get around and then going back to their mansions that use more energy than the average village..

I've always said this.......if it's as serious as they say they'd do both. You pay carbon an gas taxes an reduce your lifestyle an the elites continue flying in private jets an owning 5 mansions around the world being heated an cooled an water used to maintain the grounds while no one live in them.

But they pay for their carbon offset! They are doing their fair share.

Rules for thee!

I think they're pushing us to a technology that isn't ready or practical. Some day reduced carbon energy may be practical an affordable but I doubt I'll live to see it. Solar isn't practical, in the north it's only daylight 8 hours a day or less for several weeks a year an it's when you need heat the most. A windmill takes more energy to produce than it will deliver in it's lifespan.

 

[lil doopahead]

They will never declare victory over climate change. Everything is climate change. If it's too warm, too cold, too wet they blame climate change even though thousands of years ago where we live used to be under 2 miles of ice, climate change is man's fault. This gives them the power to tell us how to live. I'm all for keeping things as clean as possible, recycling but that isn't the "green agenda". The green agenda is an anti capitalist agenda.

Keeping things clean is just healthy and sensible... Climate change? I kinda figured it always has and always will change-- before and after Man. Much like my own mother, Mother Earth has always had her mood swings

 

[Langwilliams]

https://fullfact.org/online/wind-turbines-energy/

There are several located near me an half the time I drive past they are locked still. Like that link says in a bad location......well they always put optimum conditions on all their projections to get their desired results. My guess is most locations are less than ideal. So some pay for themselves quickly, some break even over time an some take more energy to build than they deliver.....hardly the answer for the future.

Sheffield Lake is a nice little city city right on Lake Erie. They had a mayor push the windmill theory through an the tax payers funded a few windmills. Being right on the lake they get a steady breeze. No more have been brought in because of disappointing results. Lincoln Electric has a massive plant east of Cleveland probably a mile or less off the lake front. They put up 3 windmills to power the plant an half the time or more they aren't operating when I drive by. I think they put them up to virtue signal more than to get power from.

 

[McLeadslinger]

Hard pass. I’ll be damned if they force me to get rid of my cars. Keep that BS in the UK. I could honestly see Commie-Fornia doing this despite the huge car culture there. Just more reason for people to leave that state.

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