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I just wanted to share with you all a few pictures from my weekend adventure. Didn't get too far from home, but I've been working on this setup for awhile now, and it's the first time that it was (almost) fully loaded.

Components:
Ford OEM / Retrax Tonneau cover
Yakima Overhaul w/ T slot adapters
60'' HD Crossbars*
Malone Kayak Stacker
Thule 6 pair Ski Rack (with custom hardware to mount into a T Slot with a spacer)
Yakima Topgrip paddle holders
Yakima Eyelet
And missing from the picture, a RockyMounts Swingaway Hitch Bike Rack

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*If I was to do it again, I would get the 65'' bars. Originally I had the rack about 2-3 inches higher, which gave enough room to put the paddles on the bottom side of the top crossbar, but on the outside of the trapezoid, but I had a whistle with the empty rack starting at ~45mph. Note I didn't have a whistle last year without the ski rack on it. When I lowered it to address the whistle, I lost that space and had to move them to the top, which isn't as convenient, as they get in the way of loading the kayaks for the moment. Also, as I move to the kayak saddles, I will likely have to move the paddle holders again due to lack of real estate on the 60'' crossbar... Or maybe just buy the next size.


In regards to the kayaks: It wasn't that bad placing the kayaks up on top with 2 people at home, even if the second person was my 5' 2'' wife. We carried them to the truck, but instead of putting them parallel to it as we used to with our Escape, we put it perpendicular at the tailgate. She then jumped on onto the tailgate, and I lifted the one end up to her, then I picked up the other side and walked it to the front, placing it on top of the bars, and then stepping into the rear door to lift up into position. She holds it up as I move over to the tire and strap them down. It was a bit different of a story though once we were at the water. Having to lift perpendicular meant that I had to lift it up and over the cars next to us to get it onto the rack, which was much harder. We've pretty much decided from this that we need to buy rear loading saddle design kayak rack to ease the use... Though we'll keep the stacker on hand for if we ever go with friends and have 4 at a time. I tried tying the excess straps off to the built in HD strap bit, but that didn't really work as the knots didn't stay. I guess it's back to folding it up on itself and tying it off. Having the eyelets in the rear to tie the bow lines too was great - it kept them out of the way of the bed and tailgate (and presumably the bike rack when we take that as well). For the stern lines though, I messed around with it for a bit after these pictures, and decided that I will tie them off to the front Overhaul's inside tiedown point. It keeps them off of the truck completely (clearing the back corner of the cab by about an inch), and doesn't interfere with the paddles.

In regards to the paddles: There's really not much to be said about the paddles. I didn't bother buying locks for them, as we don't have super expensive paddles anyways, and the locks would basically be the same price as the paddles. And that's probably a good thing. They seem to be designed to be side mounted, and not top mounted. As such, in their current position, the locks would be on the top of the truck, making it a complete blind operation to insert the key. Otherwise - does anyone know if I should be putting the paddles vertical or horizontal for wind purposes? PS. They make for a very natural hand hold when they're up there. Don't use them as a hand hold.

In regards to the ski rack: I'm actually using it as a kiteboard rack. It really only fits my light wind board, but the board itself it really obnoxious to put anywhere else. It takes up the full length of the bed, which means that it has to go under the tonneau canister. And it's like a foot wide, and I really don't want to put anything heavy on top of it. So by mounting this on the underside of the rack, it frees up a ton of space in the bed. The other board shouldn't have a problem fitting its way wherever due to its smaller size (which isn't enough to span the Overhaul anyways, so I couldn't mount it there.



I hope this helps give people thoughts/ideas/etc on how to do their system.
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I like it!

I'll be getting some kind of similar rack for mine eventually, because I've got a 16' canoe. I've had cars previously with the boat (didn't have the boat when I had my previous truck) and debated between a topper with roof rack and an overland-type rack like what you have (among many others) to get the boat over the cab. Considering all the other things I need to do, I think the rack setup is the best for my purposes.

I like how your rear tie-downs go to those eyelets and keep the tailgate free to access (as opposed to securing to the hitch receiver). Makes the front tie-downs seem clumsy in comparison, even though the loops through the hood seam are actually a super elegant solution. I did exactly that on my previous car almost from day one (bought it in 07).

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Being that canoe paddles are short, I'll probably just put them in the bed for now. With that said, I have nice canoe paddles so I'm not sure how I feel about them just loose back there.

I'm not sure that I'll be keeping the tandem canoe long term, though. I do like canoe functionality in general, but the tandem is an absolute bear to handle solo. I've tried it a couple times and it's been pure exhaustion. Part of it is the style of boat I have. It's a Wenonah Aurora, which is really a river expedition type boat meant to be loaded down and still handle a bit of whitewater. Not really the type of paddling I do very often at all. Lightly loaded, it sits HIGH in the water, and likes to be a sail in anything that's not a perfect headwind or tailwind. That keeps me out of the water some. It'd sure be nice to have solo boats for the wife and I to be able to get out either solo or together.
 
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So just an update to this...I ended up buying the SweetRoll kayak rack in order to make loading and transporting the 'yaks easier. As I stated before, the main problem with the vertical stacker was that my wife isn't tall enough to lift it up on top of the truck, so they required me to basically let her lift it from the tailgate to the rack, and then I had to walk around in a 12' circle to put the front into position.

So by going to the SweetRoll system, she holds the back of the kayak as I lift the front onto the bar, and she pushes it forward a bit, and then I finish it up - only one person has to be able to reach. And by being an inline load from the rear, you're ensured to have the space to load/unload.

One unfortunate thing I learned (almost the hard way) about switching to this system is that they sit taller than the vertical stacker - at least while not in use. This ended up being important, as I had to raise the bars to put the paddle holders under the crossbars again, which ended up making the saddles too tall to fit into my 7' garage. So, I ended up making some custom fab brackets to move the paddle holders away from the bar a bit, providing enough clearance to allow me to drop the rack about 2 inches and clear the garage. I could actually drop the rack more than that, but I ended up with the issue of the paddles blocking rear door access, so there was a bunch of tuning to get them to JUST clear the rear doors, and the kayak saddles JUST clear the garage door. I might actually go back and drop the rear bar a bit, angling everything upwards just slightly to provide a bit more door (and paint) clearance to the paddles.

Some thoughts on the use...
1) I didn't realize until I used it for the first time that the kayaks end up sliding on the crossbar for a bit until it gets wide enough to engage the saddle rollers. This is a duh looking back, but it didn't cross my mind at all beforehand. I'm not sure how I'd feel about doing this with a nicer kayak.
2) I REAALLYYYY enjoy the fact that I can stand on the tire and reach and see over the top of the kayaks. It makes securing them so much easier. Like I can't say that enough.
3) The excess strap clips on the main straps are awesome. You no longer need to tie down the extra.
4) I don't like the built in straps for the bow/stern secures, but I haven't quite figured out what specifically I do want. I will say that I like the secure points. The inside of the front rack clears the cab with plenty of space, and the rear eyelets minimize interference with everything.
5) When loading the kayaks, it's actually a bit challenging to get them flat. This goes along with issue #1. I might have to see about putting a V channel or something in the between the saddles to support and guide it before it hits the saddles themselves.
6) I haven't actually taken it on the highway yet, just 55mph roads, but I was still getting ~25 mpg at 55... I really wasn't expecting that, but we'll see how she handles 75mph roads.
7) I didn't realize it until recently, but the kiteboard rack now block the 3rd taillight... I don't know how I feel about that one...



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So just an update to this...I ended up buying the SweetRoll kayak rack in order to make loading and transporting the 'yaks easier. As I stated before, the main problem with the vertical stacker was that my wife isn't tall enough to lift it up on top of the truck, so they required me to basically let her lift it from the tailgate to the rack, and then I had to walk around in a 12' circle to put the front into position.

So by going to the SweetRoll system, she holds the back of the kayak as I lift the front onto the bar, and she pushes it forward a bit, and then I finish it up - only one person has to be able to reach. And by being an inline load from the rear, you're ensured to have the space to load/unload.

One unfortunate thing I learned (almost the hard way) about switching to this system is that they sit taller than the vertical stacker - at least while not in use. This ended up being important, as I had to raise the bars to put the paddle holders under the crossbars again, which ended up making the saddles too tall to fit into my 7' garage. So, I ended up making some custom fab brackets to move the paddle holders away from the bar a bit, providing enough clearance to allow me to drop the rack about 2 inches and clear the garage. I could actually drop the rack more than that, but I ended up with the issue of the paddles blocking rear door access, so there was a bunch of tuning to get them to JUST clear the rear doors, and the kayak saddles JUST clear the garage door. I might actually go back and drop the rear bar a bit, angling everything upwards just slightly to provide a bit more door (and paint) clearance to the paddles.

Some thoughts on the use...
1) I didn't realize until I used it for the first time that the kayaks end up sliding on the crossbar for a bit until it gets wide enough to engage the saddle rollers. This is a duh looking back, but it didn't cross my mind at all beforehand. I'm not sure how I'd feel about doing this with a nicer kayak.
2) I REAALLYYYY enjoy the fact that I can stand on the tire and reach and see over the top of the kayaks. It makes securing them so much easier. Like I can't say that enough.
3) The excess strap clips on the main straps are awesome. You no longer need to tie down the extra.
4) I don't like the built in straps for the bow/stern secures, but I haven't quite figured out what specifically I do want. I will say that I like the secure points. The inside of the front rack clears the cab with plenty of space, and the rear eyelets minimize interference with everything.
5) When loading the kayaks, it's actually a bit challenging to get them flat. This goes along with issue #1. I might have to see about putting a V channel or something in the between the saddles to support and guide it before it hits the saddles themselves.
6) I haven't actually taken it on the highway yet, just 55mph roads, but I was still getting ~25 mpg at 55... I really wasn't expecting that, but we'll see how she handles 75mph roads.
7) I didn't realize it until recently, but the kiteboard rack now block the 3rd taillight... I don't know how I feel about that one...



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I like your taste in kayaks ?
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funny enough, I have the same aqua bound paddles too lol.
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