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I had one and really only used the bed for coolers and empty beer cans.. and maybe getting lucky on occasion:like:
I guess there's plenty of room back there when you're alone. :crackup: ?
 

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All I know is that I found it amusing when the Maverick appeared and all of the Ridgeline haters were suddenly silent as to whether the new little bugger was a truck or not. They've slowly come back around to the 'not a truck' chant, but slowly and fewer of them.

Truck or not, all I see is a vehicle.

If the vehicle meets my needs, then it is the one I'm going to buy. Truth be told, before I bought my 2020 I had already made my mind up to buy a Ridgeline, until I took a good look at the marketplace for them. People that own those trucks put a ton of miles on them and their value was strong. So it was either, buy a used Ridgeline with a fair few miles on it, or a brand new Ranger. The travel trailer wasn't even in the picture then, so no I wasn't planning on towing with the Ridgeline, that came after the fact. But that truck would have done everything I needed it to at the time, I didn't care whether it had a unibody or not.

In my mind, if it has an open cargo space in the back, it is a truck. And that includes the goofy Subaru Baja thing.
I agree 100%, with you and others comments here that agree having the right "type" of truck for what you intend to do with it is more important than it being cab on chassis or unibody.

I would STILL have my Ridgeline (2021, that I only had a very short time) if not for a very unfortunate window leak issue that the dealer(s) and manufacturer couldn't fix, and further damaged caused by them trying to fix my "new" (only a few 100 miles) "truck". This led to lawyers, and months of time I could not drive it, and finally a buy back by Honda. This was my first ever Honda, and will be my last.

That said, I NEVER thought I'd own a Ford. Why? Well my perceived lack of quality. AND... to prove the point, just weeks after I bought my new $50K + "top" of the line Ranger I get a recall for a possible windshield problem that could include a leak! And... of course I now can't wait for transmission problems and "bucking" issues, and all the rest with my first ever Ford.
 

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I had a maverick on order so I don't hate... but... when my old Nissan's bed got screwed up and I found one that was the same color with a smashed front (minus some fade differences) then my non welding self was able to replace the bed and keep on going...

So maybe a somewhat valid reason real trucks are slightly better than unibodies? Especially when they are meant to do work and get beat up?

I think they figured out how to brace the unis now without needing the huge wing/buttress things at the corner of the bed and back of the cab; like the original Ridgeline had.... but now seeing the Honda without that makes it look more like a minivan with parts of it missing. So before that change to design... .
strength may have been an issue?
 

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A couple of objective observations from real life considerations I ran into while shopping:
When towing a travel trailer most recommend using a weight distribution hitch that puts torque on your hitch receiver to shift some of the tongue weight onto the front wheel. I’ve yet to see any owners reporting a unibody vehicle where the manufacturer doesn’t explicitly discourage using a WDH. I’m sure a unibody manufacturer COULD design to support them, but currently none appear to.
The next I’m hazier on the details but by reading between the lines from various sources I believe that solid axles often articulate better (better as in “more”, for off road scenarios) than fully independent suspensions common to unibody vehicles. Again, could you make an independent suspension with as much or more travel, probably yes. It just seems like in vehicles on the market today there is a division along the truck frame vs unibody lines.
 


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It defies classification, is it a truck or a UGO (unidentified ground object) but did hear it goes into production soon.
 
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It defies classification, is it a truck or a UGO (unidentified ground object) but did hear it goes into production soon.
14000 pound towing. It's a truck :oops:.
 

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14000 pound towing. It's a truck :oops:.
An extremely ugly one...and will instantly vault to the new status symbol the moment they start shipping...but yes, a truck.

I'd take 10000000 Ridgelines, Mavericks, and Subaru Baja's before I'd drive one of those things though, and not because it is electric. Because it is f-ing ugly.
 

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I think the only argument with legs is the capabilities argument. Otherwise it seems to me to just be a battle of perceptions. You see this in other ways in other circles. People with inexpensive Mercedes don't drive a "real Benz" because it's not the S class or SL. People with a Boxster don't have a "real Porsche" because it's not a 911. It's typical automotive gatekeeping.

I'm so basic anything with a bed and a tailgate counts as a truck to me.
Sooooo....by your definition, this qualifies as a truck.......
Has a bed, and has a tailgate.....

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14000 pound towing. It's a truck :oops:.
Can't wait to see a range test towing 14k, maybe the sages over at TFL will entertain us
 

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Can't wait to see a range test towing 14k, maybe the sages over at TFL will entertain us
With the 180kw battery supposed to be 400 miles. That will take them 3 videos :oops:.
 
 








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