Ford Hammers Its Customers Again

[DeathRanger]

Don't get me wrong, I love my turbo ICE, but these numbers seem off. Care to share your math?
I hope to see a PHEV to benefit from the low cost of driving electric without range anxiety or long waits at a charger...

Absolutely. For EV Car efficiency I'm basing the energy usage on a newer Tesla model 3 long range which gets around .3kwh/mile
30 miles * .3 kwh/mile(high efficiency EV) = 9kw
(PG&E rate reference above)$0.32549/kwh * 9kw = $2.92

For EV Truck Efficiency I'm basing this on information from Lighting owners reporting average of .5kwh/mile
30 miles * .5 kwh/mile(Low efficiency EV, like a Lightning) = 15kw
$0.32549/kwh * 15kw = $4.88

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[OneMore]

What do you think it would cost to charge an EV with these rates?

Battery size varies for EV vehicles. Between 27-120 kW. Most are around 70kW.
So lets say you let your 70kW battery pack get down to 20%, you would be adding 56 kW
to be fully charged. $18.00.
But miles per kW is what counts for how far you can drive your EV.
I used to own a BMW i3 EV. Very efficient EV platform. Carbon fiber body and aluminum frame. Only weighed 2,800 LB. I could achieve up to 4.7 miles per kW.
Most conventional EVs weigh 5,000 LB or more. Might get 2.2-2.5 miles per kW.
If you turn on the heater you lose range. Winter time operation of a EV vehicle provides a great loss in operating range.

 

[Langwilliams]

oh - so how do you explain Ford's recent drop in Mach E pricing (Jan 2023) as well as Tesla cutting prices in 2023

It's not unusual to drop the price of a model a few years after it launches after some of the engineering cost is recovered an the novelty wears off an competitors join the segment.

Where I live, The People's Republic of Kalifornia, with PG&E as supplier.
Last bill paid .32549 cents per KW.

Our electric isn't quite that cheap overall. The 10 cents is what the supplier charges which ever local distributor an area uses, then they tack on their fee and state an local taxes are added. I don't have a statement but it looks like Ohio on avg is about 14 cents a kw so it's going to about 20 cents.

 

[Jason B]

Absolutely. For EV Car efficiency I'm basing the energy usage on a newer Tesla model 3 long range which gets around .3kwh/mile
30 miles * .3 kwh/mile(high efficiency EV) = 9kw
(PG&E rate reference above)$0.32549/kwh * 9kw = $2.92

For EV Truck Efficiency I'm basing this on information from Lighting owners reporting average of .5kwh/mile
30 miles * .5 kwh/mile(Low efficiency EV, like a Lightning) = 15kw
$0.32549/kwh * 15kw = $4.88

Nice write up.
Where I live, rates are 11.5 cents per kWh, so it would cost me $1.04 for the HE EV, or $1.73 for the LE EV.
vs about $5 in the Ranger with 93 octane.
So if I figure it weekly, that's about $10 in an HE EV, vs $50 in my Ranger.
$520 yearly in HE EV, vs $2,600 in the Ranger. Big savings in fuel, but I am still unsure if an EV would be cost effective in the long run.

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