EV`s use more tires

[Squatchranger]

Legit question outside of the battery a normal car still needs significant raw materials to make. Let's not pretend it's not an only BEV problem. There is no denying what that quote has merit not to mention the grid is woefully under prepared. We do need to start somewhere. That's why there are choices.

What people need to do is hold onto their vehicles buying new regardless of electric or gas is bad. By recycling and cutting down on the insane amount of new stuff not just cars that we are producing and making things of higher quality that last longer we will be much better off. Electric cars are not the answer gas isn't either. long term quality and sustainability is but that will never happen because companies don't make money if their product lasts forever cause you never have to replace it.

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[Trigganometry]

What people need to do is hold onto their vehicles buying new regardless of electric or gas is bad. By recycling and cutting down on the insane amount of new stuff not just cars that we are producing and making things of higher quality that last longer we will be much better off. Electric cars are not the answer gas isn't either. long term quality and sustainability is but that will never happen because companies don't make money if their product lasts forever cause you never have to replace it.

My parents had an all metal 16” fan. It was made by GE around 1950. As a kid I remember being told no matter how bad you want to do it don’t stick your finger in the cage when that is running. It will cut it right off!!! I have it now. It’s very heavy, pretty silent and throws air like you wouldn’t believe. They don’t make stuff like that anymore. It will easily go a 100 years and still keep on working.

 

[Squatchranger]

My parents had an all metal 16” fan. It was made by GE around 1950. As a kid I remember being told no matter how bad you want to do it don’t stick your finger in the cage when that is running. It will cut it right off!!! I have it now. It’s very heavy, pretty silent and throws air like you wouldn’t believe. They don’t make stuff like that anymore. It will easily go a 100 years and still keep on working.

Its true what they say, they just don't make shit like they used to and its everything hell even cookware, I'll take my trusty 80 year old cast iron pan and old set of knives over this new crap any day

 

[deleriumtremor]

What people need to do is hold onto their vehicles buying new regardless of electric or gas is bad. By recycling and cutting down on the insane amount of new stuff not just cars that we are producing and making things of higher quality that last longer we will be much better off. Electric cars are not the answer gas isn't either. long term quality and sustainability is but that will never happen because companies don't make money if their product lasts forever cause you never have to replace it.

The reality of the definition of “sustainability” ultimately will come down to capping the population of the whole world.

Everything else is just “my enlightenment is greater than your enlightenment, counting coup and power shifting”.

The problem with that reality is similar to the point you just made. Economic growth down through time has always been pretty much in lock step population growth. Anyone fuzzy on this concept need only take a look at Japan’s woes and China’s upcoming woes, to understand the point I am trying to make (probably pretty badly).

What the above means is in the nor so distant future, the definition of freedom is going to have to get a makeover. That movement clearly has started here, but the “progress” on that front has been pretty halting and not consistent. When mankind stares into the abyss of extinction, only a few outliers will be misguided enough to fight it.

Sorry for being such a Debbie Downer, I got some good news yesterday, I get to start tapering the Prednisone soon. My wife isn’t speaking to me until I do.

 

[Squatchranger]

The reality of the definition of “sustainability” ultimately will come down to capping the population of the whole world.

Everything else is just “my enlightenment is greater than your enlightenment, counting coup and power shifting”.

The problem with that reality is similar to the point you just made. Economic growth down through time has always been pretty much in lock step population growth. Anyone fuzzy on this concept need only take a look at Japan’s woes and China’s upcoming woes, to understand the point I am trying to make (probably pretty badly).

What the above means is in the nor so distant future, the definition of freedom is going to have to get a makeover. That movement clearly has started here, but the “progress” on that front has been pretty halting and not consistent. When mankind stares into the abyss of extinction, only a few outliers will be misguided enough to fight it.

Sorry for being such a Debbie Downer, I got some good news yesterday, I get to start tapering the Prednisone soon. My wife isn’t speaking to me until I do.

That is really good news.
And yeah ultimately things are gonna get a whole lot worse before they get better if they even do. Whatever way stuff shakes down its gonna look a whole lot different.

 

[deleriumtremor]

Its true what they say, they just don't make shit like they used to and its everything hell even cookware, I'll take my trusty 80 year old cast iron pan and old set of knives over this new crap any day

“ending is better than mending” quotes from the Fordist lesson book, in the book Brave New World - A. Huxley, First Edition 1932

 

[Squatchranger]

“ending is better than mending” quotes from the Fordist lesson book, in the book Brave New World - A. Huxley, First Edition 1932

And look where that's gotten us lol, great for the pocket books of the producers not so much for the sustainability of our planet

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