Ensh*tification

[GhostStrykre]

Long video here that I stumbled across (1:05 run time), but it hits on a bunch of topics I’ve seen posted here.

FAIR WARNING - the video touches on political topics and the presenter attempts to balance it (I think pretty well, imo). The topic is just inherently political though. I’m just noting it and being mindful of the forum rules.



anyway… while I HAVE been truck shopping, this video does make me wanna look at old trucks again lol

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[Dr. Zaius]

Yesterday I saw the 1983 F150 that I used to have and my father-in-law still has.

It fired right up and ran smoothly. He drives it all the time. I offered to buy it back

It looks every bit of its 46 years old, but the mechanicals and electrics are still fine.

Do I think that ANY of the new vehicles with electronic everything will still be reliable 46 years from now?

Nope.

Just like the ancient freezer in our garage that still hums along working great. I believe it's a Hotpoint.

Unlike our 3 year old Samsung refrigerator that has already broken and required a service call.

 

[ScarzRanger21(2.0)]

That seems to be the way of the world now, things aren’t built to last anymore. We live in a disposable society where everything is made as cheaply as possible while still meeting minimum standards. People buy it, use it until they’re tired of it, then dump it. It’s the same with vehicles, appliances, phones, houses, everything…

Companies and corporations are too worried about making a buck on their end. They could care less about durability or reliability. Instead of building something that will last for generations, they build it as cheaply as possible. Even if it means screwing over their customers in a lot of cases.

What irritates me more is that people keep falling for it. Everyone is stuck in the mindset that newer is better. Instead of people demanding reliable products from companies, they keep buying the next newest thing to keep up with the Joneses. There was a time when reliability and durability mattered, now it’s just about having the newest and flashiest thing. “So what if it breaks in a couple years, I’ll just dump it and go get a new one.” Unfortunately, that’s the mindset of the society we live in now.

 

[TJC]

Long video here that I stumbled across (1:05 run time), but it hits on a bunch of topics I’ve seen posted here.

FAIR WARNING - the video touches on political topics and the presenter attempts to balance it (I think pretty well, imo). The topic is just inherently political though. I’m just noting it and being mindful of the forum rules.



anyway… while I HAVE been truck shopping, this video does make me wanna look at old trucks again lol

I thought it worth keeping and captured that video about a week ago. He's speaking the truth.

 

[TJC]

That seems to be the way of the world now, things aren’t built to last anymore. We live in a disposable society where everything is made as cheaply as possible while still meeting minimum standards. People buy it, use it until they’re tired of it, then dump it. It’s the same with vehicles, appliances, phones, houses, everything…

Companies and corporations are too worried about making a buck on their end. They could care less about durability or reliability. Instead of building something that will last for generations, they build it as cheaply as possible. Even if it means screwing over their customers in a lot of cases.

What irritates me more is that people keep falling for it. Everyone is stuck in the mindset that newer is better. Instead of people demanding reliable products from companies, they keep buying the next newest thing to keep up with the Joneses. There was a time when reliability and durability mattered, now it’s just about having the newest and flashiest thing. “So what if it breaks in a couple years, I’ll just dump it and go get a new one.” Unfortunately, that’s the mindset of the society we live in now.

What is so ironic is that product reliability is extremely "green friendly".

We are constantly degrading product capability / reliability in the name of being "eco friendly". It's the ultimate oxymoron... A complete contradiction. And it is being sold to the American Public.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

One of my favorite eco "improvements" is the soy based wiring sheath that is so common now.

It's a veritable Golden Corral for your favorite rodents.

 

[AzScorpion]

What is so ironic is that product reliability is extremely "green friendly".

We are constantly degrading product capability / reliability in the name of being "eco friendly". It's the ultimate oxymoron... A complete contradiction. And it is being sold to the American Public.

There is nothing "Green" or "Eco Friendly" about anything made today. It's all made to be disposable unlike when we get up and the only reason you'd get a new appliance was to change the color. Even the so called name brands aren't like they use to be. Our new dishwasher has wifi which I didn't want and refuse to connect. I guess there are certain features you can only get through it but it cleans our dishes just fine on the quick cycle.

Good sneakers like Reebok fall apart quicker and my brand new Columbia hikers are already falling a part at the soles. I had to use Gorilla glue on them and I bet that lasts longer than the crap they used. They (manufacturers) don't want you to be able to buy something and not have to replace it for 10, 20 or 30 years. They now make it so it breaks or falls apart right around the time the warranty is up and you have to either pay them to fix it or throw it away and buy another and start all over. The landfills are now full of more crap then they ever were.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Someone's hot grandma...

 

[rang19ca]

My Dad had an old Hotpoint refrigerator in the garage that was as old as I was when we sold the house after he passed. It was still working fine although it did not have defrost in the upper freezer box. The refer was 60 years old at the time.

 

[AzScorpion]

My Dad had an old Hotpoint refrigerator in the garage that was as old as I was when we sold the house after he passed. It was still working fine although it did not have defrost in the upper freezer box. The refer was 60 years old at the time.

I believe it and the only downside is that they weren't efficient but who cares when you're having to buy a new one now every 8-10 years now. Plus, what you're saving in efficiency you're spending double or more buying a new one now. More tech = more problems.

 

[GhostStrykre]

I believe all of this is the frog in a slowly boiling pot of water metaphor provided in the source video. Consumers just slowly got conditioned to accept crappier products for more money.

I think the quote in the video was that the modern model is designed “to extract value rather than create value.” Seems like a difference in semantics but it really isn’t. It’s a dramatic difference in what we buy.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Before long the ice maker in your refrigerator will be on a subscription model.

"You can get 10 bins of ice for only $3 per month, but in the summer when you use more it goes up by an extra 50 cents per bin over your allotment"

Additional charge if you want crushed instead of cubed.

All to add "value" to your experience of course.

Now I just hope that someone from Samsung or LG doesn't see this and go "Wow! What a great idea!"

 

[brroberts]

My 1998 C2500 will be running long after my 2021 Ranger and 2026 Tesla Y are dead.

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