Alright, who made the call?

[Frenchy]

Hopefully this link will work. From one of the pages I follow they give some nice tips. One of them being the factor on a vehicle being stuck to how much extra force will be needed to get said vehicle unstuck. Definitely something to consider.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...svW5YJGSdl&id=100047748161182&mibextid=ZbWKwL

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[JACKSMYDOG]

A tow boll with a 6000 LBS rating is not meant for 6000 LBS of recovery force. A 6000 LB trailer being pulled vs recovering a stuck vehicle will be totally different. That is why we do things like using recover points and hitch shackles. They are much safer to use and have way less chance of failing like a tow ball in a recovery

A tow ball can't tell the difference between 6,000 lbs of recovery force and 6,000 of road towing force.

What weighs more 6,000lbs of feathers or 6,000lbs of bricks?

Either way, there is no where near 6,000 lbs of force on a simple stuck vehicle.

 

[Frenchy]

A tow ball can't tell the difference between 6,000 lbs of recovery force and 6,000 of road towing force.


What weight more 6,000lbs of feathers or 6,000lbs of bricks?

Either way, there is no where near 6,000 lbs of force on a simple stuck vehicle.

Check the link I just attached. It will help you understand where I'm getting at. A good bit of helpful information when recovering a vehicle

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

Hopefully this link will work. From one of the pages I follow they give some nice tips. One of them being the factor on a vehicle being stuck to how much extra force will be needed to get said vehicle unstuck. Definitely something to consider.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...svW5YJGSdl&id=100047748161182&mibextid=ZbWKwL

Buried in mud is a totally different situation, the weight of the truck, the mud and then the vacuum effect will compound, but that is not the case in the video. He needed recovery more to prevent sliding sideways off the edge, not because he was buried.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

Check the link I just attached. It will help you understand where I'm getting at. A good bit of helpful information when recovering a vehicle

I've recovered hundreds of vehicles, between a regular tow truck, heavy wrecker, countless wheeling recoveries, and I even took the Wreck Master Recovery Course a few decades ago.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

Check the link I just attached. It will help you understand where I'm getting at. A good bit of helpful information when recovering a vehicle

Watch the Ronnie Dahl video, tow balls are far stronger than most give them credit for.

 

[Rhino]

tow balls will work in a pinch but its not recommended.. they are known to snap off on harder recoveries. ive seen it wheeling when someone tried pulling an xj out of mud you know where the ball went? well we dont either it went on its own journey.. for a light tug it will be fine but anything sunk in its not going to hold up its just not designed to be pulled in that manor or to be snatched on its a lot of shock force on something thats not designed for it.

 

[Msfitoy]

Although I can't say for sure on every job, but I don't think Matt charges for most recovery jobs because he does so well on YouTube income. I believe Rory @ TowMater is the same.

That makes sense...and what a great service he provides...

 

[Msfitoy]

Watch the Ronnie Dahl video, tow balls are far stronger than most give them credit for.

Not so much for this poor guy...

 

[Chris M]

That makes sense...and what a great service he provides...

Although you never see it on his channel, I'm pretty sure he runs such things through AAA, doesn't he, as he wasn't long ago taken to court by the state for "fraud" and ended up with some fines...or so I thought.

https://www.utvdriver.com/story/utv-news/matts-off-road-recovery-found-guilty-insurance-fraud/

 

[rydfree]

Not so much for this poor guy...

That video came to mind when I watched Matt use the tow ball.
Of course the tow ball can't tell the difference in 6000lbs of trailer or the yanking of a strap. The problem arises when the person recovering can't tell if the shock load is going to exceed the limit or not .

I would never tell someone to use a tow ball to recover.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

That video came to mind when I watched Matt use the tow ball.
Of course the tow ball can't tell the difference in 6000lbs of trailer or the yanking of a strap. The problem arises when the person recovering can't tell if the shock load is going to exceed the limit or not .

I would never tell someone to use a tow ball to recover.

Not just shock loading, but using a static strap, and pulling an 8,000 pound vehicle that effectively doubled it's weight in mud and suction. Also worth noting, the ball didn't fail, the drop hitch did.

 

[rydfree]

Also worth noting, the ball didn't fail, the drop hitch did.

The dead guy couldn't tell .

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

Although you never see it on his channel, I'm pretty sure he runs such things through AAA, doesn't he, as he wasn't long ago taken to court by the state for "fraud" and ended up with some fines...or so I thought.

https://www.utvdriver.com/story/utv-news/matts-off-road-recovery-found-guilty-insurance-fraud/

Again, I'm not 100%sure, but I believe that was in his earlier days when he wasn't YT famous with 1.5 million subs. This video is 11 hours old and already 300,000 views. Four videos over the last 7 days ~2 million views combined. Maybe he is still running charges through AAA but I'm guessing is small potatoes in comparison to his YT income.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

The dead guy couldn't tell .

15,000+ lbs on a 6,000 or even 12,000 lbs rated hithch. If he had used his head before the recovery, he wouldn't be dead.

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