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It was a STOCK block with rods and pistons. No support, no sleeves. It was a literal time bomb.
Sleeves are stronger than supports in every way. You can bore aftermarket sleeves as well. More boost is not always more power fyi. In fact almost all of the aftermarket tunes for our trucks run near stock boost levels and simply add power with ignition timing. Cylinder pressure is the thing that breaks stuff, not just boost.
Yes cylinder pressure sorry I'm in meetings all day. But I'm really asking what bottom end did it have because I'm learning this stuff and I've learned to use a closed deck.
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Yes cylinder pressure sorry I'm in meetings all day. But I'm really asking what bottom end did it have because I'm learning this stuff and I've learned to use a closed deck.
Like I said, no sleeves, no supports. It only lasted a season or less in a dedicated race car.
 
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Like I said, no sleeves, no supports. It only lasted a season or less in a dedicated race car.
I think mustangs come with an open deck like us. The rs versions have a closed deck bottom end I believe
 

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I think mustangs come with an open deck like us. The rs versions have a closed deck bottom end I believe
All 2.3 Ecoboosts are open deck. Period.
2.0 is closed deck and is used in high ho applications with 2.3internal parts but not on Ranger because of the aforementioned oil pump issues.
 
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My old classmate had bought a used mustang 2.3 under warranty. Needed to replace the engine. He paid 450 to the tech to put a closed deck bottom end.

From what I know an open deck is what we have and it has coolant passages to allow for more cooling. This is where failures come from when cylinder pressures are too high.

The closed deck doesn't have these passages I can't remember its method of cooling but you can throw more at it.
 


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I guess what I want is a 2.0 stroked to 2.3? In order to have a closed deck.
 

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Not sure about that. If you want a closed deck then spend $1k and have it done. If you want the added strength of aftermarket sleeves then spend a couple extra thousand and have that done.
The 2.0 block is great but it seems like a more complicated thing to adapt.
 
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Not sure about that. If you want a closed deck then spend $1k and have it done. If you want the added strength of aftermarket sleeves then spend a couple extra thousand and have that done.
The 2.0 block is great but it seems like a more complicated thing to adapt.
1k? Is that assuming I know how to swap parts over because I don't.
Also, I'm under the impression that a closed deck is superior to an open deck with sleeves and deck support. Which one is superior?

I want a drop in engine or maybe at least a short block that I can pay someone to swap over some stuff and drop it in. Idk anyone who works on Ecoboosts in Dallas so I would prefer a drop in long block but if it's cheaper to do short block and pay for labor than I mean yea I would do that.

Guess I'm just waiting for a drop in option with a fat turbo that mounts to my chassis.

I'm open to ideas which is why I created this thread. I'm learning and appreciate everyone's input.
 

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I guess what I want is a 2.0 stroked to 2.3? In order to have a closed deck.
A 2.3 crank is stroked compared to the 2.0. The bore between a 2.0 and a 2.3 is the same. That is why folks take a 2.0 block and drop the 2.3 internals into them and still have a 2.3.
 

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Oh wow so the actual lugs or bosses on the casting are the same!? Has this been proven? What's your source? Lol
Every tech article that came out when the Ranger came out stated that. The difference between the RS 2.3 block and the Mustang 2.3 block was some machining to the block to improve cooling of the head and a unique head gasket for the RS.
 
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A 2.3 crank is stroked compared to the 2.0. The bore between a 2.0 and a 2.3 is the same. That is why folks take a 2.0 block and drop the 2.3 internals into them and still have a 2.3.
This is what I was getting at, but I thought the 2.0 was machined deeper to accommodate the longer stroke.
Either way a 2.0 is mounted transversely where as the ranger engine is fore/aft so that's why I was asking about the engine mount bosses to mount to my frame.
 

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1k? Is that assuming I know how to swap parts over because I don't.
Also, I'm under the impression that a closed deck is superior to an open deck with sleeves and deck support. Which one is superior?

I want a drop in engine or maybe at least a short block that I can pay someone to swap over some stuff and drop it in. Idk anyone who works on Ecoboosts in Dallas so I would prefer a drop in long block but if it's cheaper to do short block and pay for labor than I mean yea I would do that.

Guess I'm just waiting for a drop in option with a fat turbo that mounts to my chassis.

I'm open to ideas which is why I created this thread. I'm learning and appreciate everyone's input.
You can have your (or whoever’s) block fitted with a deck support for about $1k. That IS closing the deck. If you opt for aftermarket sleeves then they are self supporting. Sleeving involves literally cutting everything out of the block and replacing it with steel sleeves. These engines are not super easy to build and they are very easy to mess up.
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