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Many of us here occasionally link to or read Ford Authority. If you are a frequent reader of that site, you've noticed that they often write about the latest patent that the whizkids have dreamed up. Some are useful, others are somewhat Orwellian in their function.
As all manufacturers are striving to add more tech and reap more profits. subscription concepts have been proposed or implemented to the irritation of many of their customers. Audi's heated seats subscription as an example; they don't turn on unless you show them the monthly money.
All newer vehicles send and receive data from their manufacturers now. Ford can tell how often you use the Homelink garage door opener, HVAC settings, CoPilot 360 features, on and on. In the case of Homelink, It was moved from standard into a high package on some models based on usage data received through Sync Connect. My 2021 Ranger XL STX has CoPilot 360, FX4, Dual HVAC, 8 in. touch screen and a few other features that are available only by moving up to an XLT for 2024 A result of analytics from the fleet? I can't prove it but I believe so.
As vehicles and features become more complex, one concept is to build all models with all the hardware, sell it cheaper (or not), and then turn them on via supscriptions. The potential downside might be that you could make options operational through Forscan or other programs, unless Ford locks access to their vehicles. There would be tremendous cost savings in manufacturing by limiting the build configuations to just one or two, instead of dozens or hundreds presently. The patent Ford made for Identity Access Management could easily be tied to a subscription.
Attached is a hypothetical message that a future Ford customer might receive upon the purchase of a new Ford or Lincoln vehicle. It follows a common format used on many in app purchases.
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I will draw the line when Lowe's/Home Depot has an app that installs with toilet seats so they know how many times I pee and poop (seat up or down)........(at least they won't know if I pee in the shower)
 

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I will draw the line when Lowe's/Home Depot has an app that installs with toilet seats so they know how many times I pee and poop (seat up or down)........(at least they won't know if I pee in the shower)
Shower pee sensing technology exists and is slowly being phased into the construction of new shower drains.
 

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All newer vehicles send and receive data from their manufacturers now
There is a modem in the passenger footwell. You can access it by dropping the glovebox like you do for a cabin filter replacement. My Fordpass hasn't be able to connect since I unplugged it.
 


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Many of us here occasionally link to or read Ford Authority. If you are a frequent reader of that site, you've noticed that they often write about the latest patent that the whizkids have dreamed up. Some are useful, others are somewhat Orwellian in their function.
As all manufacturers are striving to add more tech and reap more profits. subscription concepts have been proposed or implemented to the irritation of many of their customers. Audi's heated seats subscription as an example; they don't turn on unless you show them the monthly money.
All newer vehicles send and receive data from their manufacturers now. Ford can tell how often you use the Homelink garage door opener, HVAC settings, CoPilot 360 features, on and on. In the case of Homelink, It was moved from standard into a high package on some models based on usage data received through Sync Connect. My 2021 Ranger XL STX has CoPilot 360, FX4, Dual HVAC, 8 in. touch screen and a few other features that are available only by moving up to an XLT for 2024 A result of analytics from the fleet? I can't prove it but I believe so.
As vehicles and features become more complex, one concept is to build all models with all the hardware, sell it cheaper (or not), and then turn them on via supscriptions. The potential downside might be that you could make options operational through Forscan or other programs, unless Ford locks access to their vehicles. There would be tremendous cost savings in manufacturing by limiting the build configuations to just one or two, instead of dozens or hundreds presently. The patent Ford made for Identity Access Management could easily be tied to a subscription.
Attached is a hypothetical message that a future Ford customer might receive upon the purchase of a new Ford or Lincoln vehicle. It follows a common format used on many in app purchases.
honestly it's all about simplifying options and packages that are best for the bottom line. also every years cars get more and more expensive ad they cram more and more useless shit.... into all modern vehicles
 

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honestly it's all about simplifying options and packages that are best for the bottom line. also every years cars get more and more expensive ad they cram more and more useless shit.... into all modern vehicles
It’s the stuff they keep deleting and charging you more for it that gets my craw
 

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My vision. Daddy always paid for heated seats, why can't you?

Anyone do/know the whole Tesla auto drive subscription? I heard it was nearly $500 a month like 4 years ago? I have never driven enough to justify that.
 
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My vision. Daddy always paid for heated seats, why can't you?

Anyone do/know the whole Tesla auto drive subscription? I heard it was nearly $500 a month like 4 years ago? I have never driven enough to justify that.
Back when I was growing up, Dad heated my seat regularly.
 
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I will draw the line when Lowe's/Home Depot has an app that installs with toilet seats so they know how many times I pee and poop (seat up or down)........(at least they won't know if I pee in the shower)
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Unfortunately we must void the warranty on your April Shower. The reason being it that the UrinSense sensors detected a higher than allowable alkali tallow emulsion (soap) content in the wastewater stream. This can only occur if urine is coming from the shower drain, and potentially cause corrosion of the imitation stainless steel drain cover.

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There is an upside to this whole subscription nonsense though. As the cost of subscriptions to all of this gadgetry gets out of hand, which it inevitably will, there's a (slim, I know) chance that people will just refuse to pay for this crap and actually start paying attention to driving again.

I know, I know, I'm living in a fantasy world, but what can I say; I like it better here...
 

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Wasn't 'that' a she?
Nope....this was "Mama".....
You can tell she's just been told her Ranger was out of warranty by 3 days....

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