How did/does the Ford Performance tune continue to dupe people?

[TOMDEE]

This is not about any inherent problem in the FPP tune, it runs fine, the same as all the others. However you constantly hear people giving the advice "get the ford tune it doesn't mess with your warranty".

Does no one read the paper documents with products anymore? There is literally pages in the warranty docs on coverage and liability.

Ford/FPP makes their liability so ambiguous that if they smell a fart in the driver seat they reserve the right to deny a claim. Out of the numerous "outs" they have listed, this looks like plain English to me:

"Should any parts contained within this catalog prove
defective following their purchase, the buyer and not
the manufacturer, distributor or retailer, shall assume
the entire cost of all necessary servicing and/or repair.
The entire risk as to the performance of such parts or
vehicles is with the buyer."

COULDN'T AGREE MORE, WAIT FOR YOUR VEHICLE TO GET OUT OF WARRANTY BEFORE DOING ANY MECHANICAL OR SOFTWARE CHANGES. FOR ME, I THREW CAUTION TO THE WIND AND WENT WITH THE FPP AND AM LOVING IT. SMOOTH TRANSMISSION SHIFTS, I ALWAYS LEAVE IT IN AUTOMATIC MODE, GREAT POWER BAND, PERFORMANCE/HP/TORQUE IS ALWAYS THERE, NO LAG, WARMS UP FAST EVEN WHEN THE TEMP WAS -14 C YESTERDAY. GREAT GAS MILEAGE USING 91 OCTANE, 26MPG/9LITRES/100KMS, IF I WERE TO EXPERIENCE A MAJOR FAULT WITH THE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION, I WOULD DETAIL THE LIVING DUCK OUT OF IT, LIMP IT INTO THE DEALER AND TRADE DOWN TO THE MAVERICK. WHAT IF THEY TOOK IT FOR A TEST DRIVE, WELL, THAT'S ALWAYS A 50/50 CHANCE. LAST TIME I DID THAT, NO ONE TOOK IT FOR A TEST DRIVE AS THEY COULD'NT GET PAST THE GLEAM OF THE DETAILING I HAD DONE AHAHAHHA I EVEN SPRAY OVER THE RUSTY PARTS WITH FLAT BLACK RUST PAINT, WHEEL WELLS ETC..

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[Dgc333]

When it gets right down to it absolutely any modification to your truck can result in the denial of a warranty claim if something related fails. The factory is providing a warranty on the vehicle as it was shipped from the factory not the vehicle with modifications.

Wheels with a different offset from stock can result in the denial of hub failure claims.
Larger than stock tires can result in suspension, hub or axle failures.
After market speakers if they have different specs than stock can result in denial of a head unit failure.
Graphics on the paint can result in denial of a paint failure where the graphics are.

There is an old hot rodders saying; "If you want to play you have to be willing to pay". If you are very risk adverse the best course of action is not to make any changes during the warranty period.

 

[that408guy]

And how did you gather that from " Should any parts contained within this catalog..." ?

Oh and you are right, the very act of of having the FPP tune will not void it, but that is not my point.



The very next sentence in the warranty pamplet after that very exact quote you posted:

"Engine, drive line, and suspension concerns not caused by
the use of Ford Performance parts remain eligible for warranty coverage according to the terms of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty."

They are basically saying what would apply to any damn aftermarket modification by stating Magnus Moss Act, without saying Magnus Moss Act. lmao

Other random things not covered:

Did you know using your truck as a stationary power source can void your warranty? Have an FPP tune, but also overland, roll the dice my friend.

How about racing? Brilliant marketing plan right? Lets sell a "performance" product, but if we determine you uh... performanced to much performance out of your performance product we can't help ya.

The list goes on and on and on.

Ahhh I misunderstood your initial comment. MY understanding now is the tune doesn't turn the warranty off but if the FPP tune is the reason something breaks then you're not covered.

 

[Dgc333]

Ahhh I misunderstood your initial comment. MY understanding now is the tune doesn't turn the warranty off but if the FPP tune is the reason something breaks then you're not covered.

Assuming you are in the 3/36 warranty period of the tune and the FPP tune causes a failure the FPP tune covers the cost of the repairs.

After the 3/36 during the 5/60 power train warranty of the vehicle, if the FPP tune causes a failure Ford could deny the claim. BUT, in my 6 years on the Ecoboost Mustang forum where lots of people have blown up their 2.3 Ecoboost engines no one has been denied a warranty claim. Any warranty claim denials have always been for aftermarket tunes.

 

[that408guy]

Assuming you are in the 3/36 warranty period of the tune and the FPP tune causes a failure the FPP tune covers the cost of the repairs.

After the 3/36 during the 5/60 power train warranty of the vehicle, if the FPP tune causes a failure Ford could deny the claim. BUT, in my 6 years on the Ecoboost Mustang forum where lots of people have blown up their 2.3 Ecoboost engines no one has been denied a warranty claim. Any warranty claim denials have always been for aftermarket tunes.

That is good to hear. Fingers crossed no one will actually need to use their warranties.

 

[Dgc333]

That is good to hear. Fingers crossed no one will actually need to use their warranties.

There are several tuners that have blown up a significant number of 2.3 Ecoboost Mustangs. They also get more power out of the engine by pushing it closer to the edge. You don't hear about them over here because they tune using the COBB platform. For whatever reason COBB hardware/software does not support the 2.3 used in the Ranger.

In general the Ecoboost Mustang crowd has an inferiority complex and are always pushing the engine to try and be faster than a Mustang GT.

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