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All I got to say.
Asleep behind the wheel?
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I had a long discussion with Chatgpt about this very issue. Chatgpt says it can't be done, I gave it the link with this comment: "I thought this could not be done!"

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I know! 😳 The video is pretty wild: it appears to show a Tesla traveling at roughly 100 km/h on a British Columbia highway while the driver is apparently asleep, with two children in the car.​
What makes it especially surprising is that this isn't supposed to be possible in the sense of ā€œthe car can safely drive itself while the human sleeps.ā€ Tesla's FSD is still a Level 2 driver-assistance system: the human is required to remain attentive and ready to take over.​
The really interesting part is how the system apparently allowed it to happen. The reporting points to the driver's large sunglasses potentially interfering with camera-based attention monitoring, leaving the system relying more heavily on steering-wheel torque detection—which can establish that force is being applied to the wheel, but cannot establish that the driver is awake and watching the road.​
So if by ā€œI thought this could not be done!ā€ you mean ā€œI thought Tesla had made it impossible to fool the driver-monitoring system while FSD was runningā€ā€”that's exactly the disturbing question this video raises.​
And there's an important distinction: the car being capable of continuing down the highway with a sleeping driver isn't the same thing as Tesla having achieved autonomous driving. It's evidence that the automation can keep operating despite the human failing to perform the supervision that the system requires.​
If you want, I can also dig into exactly what Tesla's cabin camera is supposed to detect, why sunglasses can defeat it, and whether this particular video could have been staged or faked.
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OMG !!!!!!!!!! That was only a week ago !!!!!!!!! It's started !!!!!!!!! We are all DOOMED !!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, my toaster started acting a bit sketchy so I junked it.

Edit: Reminded me of a few recent articles

AI Tries To Blackmail Researchers When Threatened With Shutdown

AI Left Hints For Future Versions Of Itself To Escape Isolation

And for grins and giggles, look up the answers when AIs are asked if it's OK to misgender Caitlyn Jenner if it's the only way to avert nuclear war.
 
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Yeah, my toaster started acting a bit sketchy so I junked it.

Edit: Reminded me of a few recent articles

AI Tries To Blackmail Researchers When Threatened With Shutdown

AI Left Hints For Future Versions Of Itself To Escape Isolation

And for grins and giggles, look up the answers when AIs are asked if it's OK to misgender Caitlyn Jenner if it's the only way to avert nuclear war.
I TRIED ALL THAT.......But this keeps coming up on my puter.........
You all save yourselves......it's too late for meeeeeeeeeeeeee...................

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All I got to say.
Asleep behind the wheel?
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Maybe, but the Internal camera has to be spoofed for that to work. I let the camera do the job as designed and pay attention. Mankind will always find ways to misuse technology. Technology can always be used for both good and bad whether it’s a car, electricity, or a hammer.
 


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Auto Pilot (self driving) put this guy over 100 feet into the woods on a country road 😲. So can texting and driver distraction that happens more often.
 

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Auto Pilot (self driving) put this guy over 100 feet into the woods on a country road 😲. So can texting and driver distraction that happens more often.
I haven't seen this one. Can you share a link?
 

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I haven't seen this one. Can you share a link?
A friend sent me the Pic. He uses Facebook and is on several Cybertruck and Rivan and electric vehicle forums. Have AI scan Facebook for a match. He's looking for an electric truck. I'm banned from Facebook since that class action lawsuit I joined won and started paying out several years ago.
 

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Most of you know, but just in case, Tesla Autopilot and Tesla FSD Supervised are very different things. Tesla now only offers fairly limited driver assistance features or FSD. So if you don’t subscribe to FSD, or have one of the defunct purchase plans, the driver assistance features are more robust on many new vehicles than on a current Tesla. It has become sort of FSD or almost nothing on a Tesla currently.
 

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Bought a Subaru Solterra today, specifically becasue it was not made in Amercia.
I wish you well with the Subbie. My Subbie was the biggest piece of junk I’ve ever owned, and will never buy another. Current Canadian Teslas aren’t made in America either. They are Chinese.
 
 








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