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2020 Ranger: Will it get the 2.7 V-6 Eco Boost?

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You can get the 3.5 EB on a long bed regular cab 4x2. Ford tried a short bed 4x2 3.5 EB in 2014, called it the Tremor. It didn't sell.
You're right, I forgot about the 8 foot bed being available with the 3.5 EB. But a 5.5 or 6.5 foot bed Regular Cab would be lighter. I'm not sure exactly why the Tremor didn't sell, but I know I would want 4x4 with the 3.5 EB for the dragstrip.
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I doubt Ford will offer the 2.7 EcoBoost on the Ranger because it'd be much faster than the F-150. Just like they do not offer the 3.5 EcoBoost on the F-150 Regular Cab w/ 4x2. It'd be super light with a lot of power, kind of a cheap Lightning setup.

I have the 2.7 EcoBoost V6 in my Fusion Sport and wish I had more power with a 2nd-gen D35 3.5L EcoBoost. You can never have too much power. Looking at the specs on paper, even with a fully tuned 2.3 on the Ranger at 350-400 hp, I'd still want more power like 500+ with a tune-only 3.5 truck EcoBoost.
My 2001 was a 2WD, regular cab, shortbox, 4.0L, 5spd.. Translation? Strongest and fastest Stock Ranger Available.
My new one? 2019 2WD SuperCab STX... Translation ... (See above)
Comparatively "super light with a lot of power" with the 2.3L Ecoboost. :like::rockon:
 

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My 2018 Explorer XLT (same as 11-19 Explorer) is actually wider than the current Ranger and maybe the same weight or heavier. I have the N/A 3.5L stock 290 hp, but I tuned it and they are known to pretty much cap out around 315-320 hp. I have to strategically merge onto the freeway because there's not enough power. I wish I had gotten the 2.3L EcoBoost because I could tune that to 350-400 hp, and the PTU is a different design that doesn't overheat (plus doesn't have the internal water pump).

It's crazy that the F-150 is only slightly wider than the Explorer... and any of the EB V6 engines would do well in the Ranger, but Ford won't likely put one in to avoid cannibalization of the F-series sales.

I actually like the 2.3 EB, looks like it gets really good gas mileage and has decent tuning potential.
 

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In the Explorers you could also get the 3.5L EB's. And now the next gen Explorer is available with a 400hp 3.0L EB. Impressive.

I much rather see the 3.0L EB in the upcoming Ranger Raptor. :)
 

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Plenty of power .. I’m lugging around a 200 lb tepui tent on a Yakima overhaul hd rack and it’s still got plenty of power ... in fact the fx4 rides better with the tent mounted
 


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I never once stated that the Ranger lacks anything for power. It has plenty.
I'm just a power junkie. Can never have to much.
 

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Diesels make no sense in this market. As I said earlier, I expect a bigger engine just for marketing but really if your primary use case is hauling 7500lbs (vs doing so occasionally) a full size truck makes more sense just from a handling perspective. But why stop at an F150 with a crummy v6 when an F350 with the new 7.3 v8 can efficiently haul 34k pounds all day long? Really, everyone should have one just in case they might ever tow anything.
Diesel makes absolute sense when you realize they can tow 7500# and still get 19MPG doing it. I come from a small diesel SUV, and I towed a 4700# camper 200+ miles at highway speeds all while averaging 19.5MPG. with a curb weight comparable to the Ranger.
 

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Whatever folks may want engine wise, I still believe the true limiting factor is gas tank size. The Ranger has a puny tank. Unless the next gen gets a bigger tank, I don't see it getting bigger engines. I am fine with the 2.3, but suspect range will be awful when towing. Tank size rather than engine choice is what has kept me from buying one. My Tundra may only get 17-18 mpg, but the tank is big enough to run just shy of 400 miles per tank. Towing with the 4.7 V8 takes a remarkably small bite from mpg. I would expect a small turbo motor to do much worse when towing.
 

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I doubt Ford will put 2.7 in the Ranger and erode F-150 sales
 

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I doubt Ford will put 2.7 in the Ranger and erode F-150 sales
I don't think people buy a truck for mostly an engine option.. they buy it for capability, size, performance, etc. F-150 will always have more engine options than the Ranger. Simply adding a second option won't deter people from buying an F-150.
 

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My wife has the the Canyon Duramax Diesel, it is worth every penny for the option. Economics of a diesel vs gasser can be argued with many variables until the cows come home. There definitely is a market for the diesel. Having a clean Diesel in the family for towing and to a lesser extent fuel economy (cost per mile driven), fuel range, and exhaust brake, has made it easy for me to choose a 2019 Ranger as my daily driver and weekend project/recreation truck.
 

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Fuel management is the key.
I don't understand your logic as to why the 2.3 would work significantly harder than the 2.7.
with the additional rotating mass and two extra cylinders, along with the extra turbo, I think the
" extra effort" is compensated for in extra inherent efficiency.
Look at the torque of the 2.7. It dynos better than the 5.0 in hp and tq. Can the 2.3 say that? Compared to the 2.3, the 2.7 makes much more usable (truck) tq at a very low rpm. When your spooling turbo(s) you're using gas. It's the same reason why the 2.7 and 3.5 don't do any better, and usually worse, than a 6.2 GM towing a trailer. They have to work harder to get that load moving and sustained. TFL tested the F-150 2.7 on their MPG loop and it did better than the Ranger. How? It's 300+ lbs heavier and has a bigger frontal surface area. The Ranger is a heavy truck for the 2.3 IMHO. Not that it doesn't do the job well, it is quite quick, it just loses it's efficiency advantage due to the weight and load.
 

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Diesels make no sense in this market. As I said earlier, I expect a bigger engine just for marketing but really if your primary use case is hauling 7500lbs (vs doing so occasionally) a full size truck makes more sense just from a handling perspective. But why stop at an F150 with a crummy v6 when an F350 with the new 7.3 v8 can efficiently haul 34k pounds all day long? Really, everyone should have one just in case they might ever tow anything.
Diesels really make no sense in a 1/2 ton. They'll never pay for themselves for 99% of the people who buy them. The F-150 diesel has basically been a sales flop. I doubt the Ranger will get one. If Ford want's "Best in class" bragging rights, they have a 2.7 that would crush everything in the class.
 

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Yours is a persistent argument with just enough merit to sound plausible.
Unfortunately it is an old one and I remember when it was used to support V8s when the better choice was an I-6 for a particular application.
You may be chasing rainbows and wasting money next year if the V6 is offered and you trade-in a perfectly capable new truck, but it may be worth it if it makes you happy, and that is what really matters.:like:
It took 3 model years to get Ford to build my old Ranger, but I kept it for 18 years so I get it.
Who's trading in? That would not make sense for most. But, a new buyer of a 2020 would be crazy not to buy a 2.7 over the 2.3 if the option was priced right. With that said, I think Ford will put a premium on the 2.7 should it be an option. It's not needed when compared to the 2.3. It is wanted by many who would likely pony up the extra $$ on an already over priced truck to have what they "want". Want's vs needs......This is America
 

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Who's trading in? That would not make sense for most. But, a new buyer of a 2020 would be crazy not to buy a 2.7 over the 2.3 if the option was priced right. With that said, I think Ford will put a premium on the 2.7 should it be an option. It's not needed when compared to the 2.3. It is wanted by many who would likely pony up the extra $$ on an already over priced truck to have what they "want". Want's vs needs......This is America
I have loved the 2.7 since I first saw it at introduction, But I was excited that the 2.3 was chosen for the Ranger. Given the choice for even money I would choose the 2.3... let alone paying more.
It is the right engine for the Ranger and it is great in the Mustang.
One head and one turbo.
I see it as the sort of spiritual progeny of the SVO 2.3 turbo engine of the eighties, and a prodigy at that!
I ran the SVO engine in my Pinto Sedan and it was the fastest car I have ever driven and a riot above 3000RPM!!:rockon:
OF course I'm buying a SuperCab 2WD, so it is not over burdened with superfluous baggage.
I also ride bicycles instead of motorcycles and tow a Scamp13D instead of an oversized trailer with poor aero, so its the perfect choice for me and I think for the 4WD Sedan Ranger as well!:like:
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