I want to encourage new Ranger owners/potential owners

[Chris M]

That was hard to read and understand, and I had to do it twice to get the gist of things.
Punctuation is essential to proper understanding.
That said, I am also sorry about your experience, as it does not appear to be the norm for Ranger ownerns.

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[AdamHarris]

Well I definitely got a clunker first of all I need a technician knows what he’s doing and understands the TSB it’s stated on the left rear of the Ranger to take the quarter inch plate out already to tensioner leaf which they did not I try to get it out and it will not budge it’s like welded into there for some reason so I’m thinking that’s why they didn’t replace or take it out to put the wedge gym in there which is a big issue with my truck at the moment not to mention the airflow on the passenger side door I cannot get it to quiet down I don’t know what the deal is over there

Either it has a bad body design there or door seals need to be fatter maybe I’ve tried sticking some Thermo king seal door in there which it will come back out but no prevail I still have airflow and I am deaf in one ear and I can hear it plain as day anybody got any suggestions I really don’t want to take the truck back to the dealer cause I might drive to the great Bear Glasspro to show room for the way they did me and my wife

Well I'm very sorry for your troubles but this is exactly what I'm talking about. Vehicle gets declared a "clunker" on account of a wind noise and a piece of metal that's hard to remove.

 

[Trigganometry]

Trigganometry will be onto this one

 

[wanted33]

I compare it to my experience. I bought my Ranger with the intent of keeping until my Bronco arrived. I don't use a truck like I used too, and I'm doing a test with my Jeep to see if it will do everything I need. In other words if the Jeep/Bronco will do what I need I don't need to keep the Ranger. But, with approx. 3K miles I have found that I enjoy the little truck so much I don't think I'll be able to get rid of it even after the Bronco arrives.

 

[Samsquanch]

In theory I agree with this post 100% I came to this forum before I bought my truck last month and thought that like most forums none of the problems I read about would hit me. Mostly people come post on the tech forums when they have an issue right?

I checked the oil on the truck the night I got home and smiled all the way to work the next day loving my new truck. By the end of the week my oil reeked like gas and is well beyond max on the dipstick. My smile was gone before the truck had 500 miles on it.

After reading the oil in fuel thread exhaustively I have come to two conclusions.

First the issue is very real and effects a decent number of trucks. I really think more are effected than even realize because I’ve seen many posts like yeah Mine smells like gas but I’m sure Ford is on top of it and I have a warranty so whatever. Very short sighted thinking. Ford could easily shrug and leave the 5G without a fix and move right onto the 6g. They’ve sold a decent amount of these trucks but not a ton. There’s a chance they could just write us off completely and never fix this.

I’ve owned three other DI engines in the same climate and driving styles as the ranger including another EB engine in my driveway. No oil dilution issues to speak of. My commute is 28 miles so short tripping isn’t an issue. Ford has no viable solution to the problem as of yet and seems clueless to what is causing it

Second, it’s too early to tell even for 2019s what the longevity of the trucks is given a notable problem with the most critical system in the entire truck which is lubrication. You think the guy in the oil thread who is getting 12% fuel in his oil is going to have a long lived truck if Ford doesn’t do something? I’m willing to bet that truck is going to have major wear issues in short order.

So in conclusion I would say you can and should buy a ranger but it’s too early to say if any of the problems here are serious enough to cause you to avoid one until they are corrected. The shudder issue in my opinion is far less serious than those with 2 cups of gas in their crank case.

 

[OrangeStreak]

I compare it to my experience. I bought my Ranger with the intent of keeping until my Bronco arrived. I don't use a truck like I used too, and I'm doing a test with my Jeep to see if it will do everything I need. In other words if the Jeep/Bronco will do what I need I don't need to keep the Ranger. But, with approx. 3K miles I have found that I enjoy the little truck so much I don't think I'll be able to get rid of it even after the Bronco arrives.

Jim, I like the dual purpose convenience of a Truck...you can carry passengers and if you need to haul something just throw it into the open bed and deliver it without having to open an enclosed door (other than the tailgate) to get it in

 

[OrangeStreak]

 

[OrangeStreak]

In theory I agree with this post 100% I came to this forum before I bought my truck last month and thought that like most forums none of the problems I read about would hit me. Mostly people come post on the tech forums when they have an issue right?

I checked the oil on the truck the night I got home and smiled all the way to work the next day loving my new truck. By the end of the week my oil reeked like gas and is well beyond max on the dipstick. My smile was gone before the truck had 500 miles on it.

After reading the oil in fuel thread exhaustively I have come to two conclusions.

First the issue is very real and effects a decent number of trucks. I really think more are effected than even realize because I’ve seen many posts like yeah Mine smells like gas but I’m sure Ford is on top of it and I have a warranty so whatever. Very short sighted thinking. Ford could easily shrug and leave the 5G without a fix and move right onto the 6g. They’ve sold a decent amount of these trucks but not a ton. There’s a chance they could just write us off completely and never fix this.

I’ve owned three other DI engines in the same climate and driving styles as the ranger including another EB engine in my driveway. No oil dilution issues to speak of. My commute is 28 miles so short tripping isn’t an issue. Ford has no viable solution to the problem as of yet and seems clueless to what is causing it

Second, it’s too early to tell even for 2019s what the longevity of the trucks is given a notable problem with the most critical system in the entire truck which is lubrication. You think the guy in the oil thread who is getting 12% fuel in his oil is going to have a long lived truck if Ford doesn’t do something? I’m willing to bet that truck is going to have major wear issues in short order.

So in conclusion I would say you can and should buy a ranger but it’s too early to say if any of the problems here are serious enough to cause you to avoid one until they are corrected. The shudder issue in my opinion is far less serious than those with 2 cups of gas in their crank case.

Thanks for sharing your honest reflections on your Ranger experience. This will bring a realistic perspective to us who have not gone through any serious issues

 

[DRVMN]

I have been 100% satisfied with my 2021 Ranger XLT FX4 after two months and 3,600 miles. With any new vehicle (especially first-year models) comes some "bugs" that need to be worked out. Think about how many times our phones or computers are updated - including the apps and software. Automobiles are loaded with electronics and there are always going to be bugs to be fixed along with updates. I have learned a lot from this forum already and I am keeping my eye on some of the issues some owner's have been having (e.g. fuel in oil, spongy brakes, etc.). I have an appointment to have my brakes looked at and would have never known there was a potential issue without this forum. I'm hoping that by the time the 2021 models rolled out, most of the issues and bugs were addressed and fixed. Similar to my 2016 Harley-Davidson Ultra Limited. The first model year with the new engine was 2014 and like most new model releases, there will be issues that need to be fixed or addressed. I've had two recalls for my motorcycle (one was a gas cap that was too tight) and it's all been fine. Our trucks are only as good as the company (Ford) that made them and the dealerships that sold them. I have found that Ford stands behind their work and if a certain dealership is difficult to work with, there are scores of other dealerships I can use instead.

This has been by far, the most favorite vehicle I have EVER owned! I can carry five passengers and also haul "stuff" in the box. I can pull a heavy trailer, accelerate on the highway to pass another vehicle, I look forward to our Minnesota snowfalls and say to Mother Nature "Bring it On!". Oh yeah - did I say I love my truck!!!

 

[DHH]

I will say be prepared for the stock shifting maps to "gear hunt" on any sort of roads with hills.

In tune with the OP's reason for this thread, I don't think most people have an issue with the tranny.
I live in BC, Canada. More "hills" than most will ever see and I never have an issue with gear hunting.
Even with a 10spd there will be times where you just don't have the "right" gear and it will upshift until the engine bogs down, then downshift, then repeat. That's normal. Try the same hill with an old 3spd auto. I've seen guys post on the Bronco site that they are getting a Manual because they don't want the hunting of the auto. LMAO. How is 6 gears going to reduce shifting over 10 gears? I've had manuals before, and it's an endless upshift, downshift, upshift, downshift, etc, going through the mountains.
I LOVE the 10spd Auto! Works flawless IMO.

 

[Samsquanch]

Thanks for sharing your honest reflections on your Ranger experience. This will bring a realistic perspective to us who have not gone through any serious issues

It’s worth mentioning that if I could get this resolved I would be otherwise thrilled with the truck. It’s a great looking and nice driving truck. I just want to feel like I can depend on it long term and keep it out of the dealer.

 

[OrangeStreak]

I have been 100% satisfied with my 2021 Ranger XLT FX4 after two months and 3,600 miles. With any new vehicle (especially first-year models) comes some "bugs" that need to be worked out. Think about how many times our phones or computers are updated - including the apps and software. Automobiles are loaded with electronics and there are always going to be bugs to be fixed along with updates. I have learned a lot from this forum already and I am keeping my eye on some of the issues some owner's have been having (e.g. fuel in oil, spongy brakes, etc.). I have an appointment to have my brakes looked at and would have never known there was a potential issue without this forum. I'm hoping that by the time the 2021 models rolled out, most of the issues and bugs were addressed and fixed. Similar to my 2016 Harley-Davidson Ultra Limited. The first model year with the new engine was 2014 and like most new model releases, there will be issues that need to be fixed or addressed. I've had two recalls for my motorcycle (one was a gas cap that was too tight) and it's all been fine. Our trucks are only as good as the company (Ford) that made them and the dealerships that sold them. I have found that Ford stands behind their work and if a certain dealership is difficult to work with, there are scores of other dealerships I can use instead.

This has been by far, the most favorite vehicle I have EVER owned! I can carry five passengers and also haul "stuff" in the box. I can pull a heavy trailer, accelerate on the highway to pass another vehicle, I look forward to our Minnesota snowfalls and say to Mother Nature "Bring it On!". Oh yeah - did I say I love my truck!!!

David,
I agree with your perspective on the complexities of the newer vehicles. New safety features, advanced electronics, engineering changes. It is realistic to expect bugs and some additional problems. My last Truck was old school traditional technology...just get in and drive it. I enjoy the challenge of going through the learning curve with the new technology which has in the process changed my former expectations!

 

[OrangeStreak]

It’s worth mentioning that if I could get this resolved I would be otherwise thrilled with the truck. It’s a great looking and nice driving truck. I just want to feel like I can depend on it long term and keep it out of the dealer.

These Rangers are fun and fast (unfortunately)...I have to discipline myself to stay off the turbocharger when a Taco challenges me

 

[OrangeStreak]

In tune with the OP's reason for this thread, I don't think most people have an issue with the tranny.
I live in BC, Canada. More "hills" than most will ever see and I never have an issue with gear hunting.
Even with a 10spd there will be times where you just don't have the "right" gear and it will upshift until the engine bogs down, then downshift, then repeat. That's normal. Try the same hill with an old 3spd auto. I've seen guys post on the Bronco site that they are getting a Manual because they don't want the hunting of the auto. LMAO. How is 6 gears going to reduce shifting over 10 gears? I've had manuals before, and it's an endless upshift, downshift, upshift, downshift, etc, going through the mountains.
I LOVE the 10spd Auto! Works flawless IMO.

These 10 speeds are off the chart

 

[Scooter]

I am a potential owner. Hopefully the 6G Ranger Scab comes in the PHEV.

I researched the pricier 4 door Bronco. Just feel that the Ranger fits my needs better. The one thing with the Bronco is that I would have to load gear on the roof. The Ranger with the 6' bed, I feel I can get almost everything in the back for camping. I can also get racking that will be below the roof line. I live in an apartment with a 6'6" gate.

From this very useful site I have complied my future add on's wish list.

I own a 2011 XL Ranger 2WD, 2.3 L. Its very basic and super reliable. I just climbed under it this weekend and wire brushed the small amount of rust it had and spray bombed the spots. I wish I had put some seat covers on it. I have destroyed the seats.

Happy with the Ford Products. Thank You everyone on this site for very useful information on your Rangers.

Scooter

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