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Or would that be Poo-tine?

Not really surprising if you think about it. All of the top line off road trims from every manufacturer are very expensive now, so very few are willing to use them for what they are marketed for. I was very close to getting a Colorado ZR2 recently, thinking that I could have one vehicle to do...

This applies to a ton of Jeeps as well.

I'd wait until I knew whose side I wanted to be on...

Bond, Tracy Bond...

I don't know. Mine didn't look that bad and it was rebuilt at 36k miles.

That's big time burnt. When clean, the ULV fluid is difficult to even see on the dipstick.

Coil springs vs leaf springs. Leaf springs are better for towing.

Don't tell anybody, but years ago I bought a lottery ticket and won. I didn't report it and kept every bit of that $10 to myself :sunglasses:

When playing by the rules gets you so screwed over, it's no wonder fraud is rampant.

I just remembered one more thing that might make borrowing the money a better choice. New American vehicles purchased after 12/31/2024 can deduct the loan interest on your taxes. For tax years 2025–2028, you may deduct up to $10,000 in interest on loans for new, American-made vehicles...

The Maverick Tremor I was looking at went up $5k on May 1st when the April incentives went away and Employee Pricing came around. And amazingly, it sold quickly at that $5k higher price. Employee Pricing appeared on Friday, it was gone from the dealer website Saturday evening.

That's why you run the numbers, to see which works out better in your situation. Many states will get you no matter how you slice it.