Strokerduster
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Ever notice how many very low mileage tacomas are on dealer used car lots? I'm sure it's because it's the best truck out there.....
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No I was in a rental car at the time. I wish I had her lower the tailgate because I would've noticed right then there was no damper on the Ranger. ? I could've got off to a head start with my business venture.?Dave I hope you lowered the tailgate to sit on while chewing the cud.
????this reminds me of a buddy who had blue Chevy blood running through his veins.
wouldn't surprise me if he had bow ties even on his underwear.
anyways, he always raved about the resale of Chevy products.
i simply told him, they hold their value because idiots like you will overpay for a piece of shit.
he always tried to argue that one, mostly unsuccessfully, and that blue blood would boil so fast.
i took pride is setting him off so easily.
Your Tacoma envy is showing...I think the offroad dominance is slowly going away. All of the trucks in this segment are very similar, IFS, track, wheel base , weight , and locking differentials so they should perform the same. Toyota does have much better aftermarket support and that can give them an edge for now. The game changer is the low end torque of the Ranger, torque not horsepower gets weight moving and the taco doesn't even start to make any power until 3500 rpm due to the terrible Atkinson design 3.5 liter engine. You need torque offroading and eventually the buying public will find this out. Many third gen taco owners are regearing to 4.56 or higher gears to regain some low end. I'm sure Toyota will figure this out and respond with something good in the near future. Many blame Tacos trans for the issue but the trans is very smooth, the lack of low rpm torque is causing the trans to constantly hunt gears. My 17 Taco sport got traded on 11/21/20 and is still sitting on the lot today which is unheard of around here . They were asking 39,998 which is 2000 more than I paid for it and it has 35,000 miles. They put new tires on it which it didn't need and they didn't even detail it as it was so clean. Now its down to 33,990 which is what they gave me for it, so they are selling for a loss. I'm no fanboy by any means as Ill buy what's best for me at the time . I think the Tacos great reputation is slowly going away. The rear end vibration and leaking and lack of low end torque and frame rust is catching up with them.
I had a different experience - ran into a guy who had made a Lexus GX into an off road vehicle (link below) - lift, big tires, skid, plates and so on, but it was old and I discussed my Ranger and let him drive it, he said it was between a ranger and taco, and he bought the taco. Can't remember the off road trail he'd take annual jaunts on, it was in North NM and supposedly bad *ss .If I had bought a 2nd gen Tacoma I'd probably still be driving it. The 3rd gen drivetrain is one of the worst I've ever driven and yes the seating position is God awful too! I could never drive any long distance with that truck. When we went to CO summer of '19 I rented a car because I hated driving it for any length of time. One good thing though while we were in CO I met a lady at the gas station with a brand new Saber Ranger. Talked her ear off for about an hour and 3 weeks later I bought mine.
You might want to reconsider that last statement.I started to say that they were the first small 4x4 pickup, but then I remembered that there was an oddball (and ill-fated) Chevy Luv 4x4 that hit the market first. But, Toyota was there making and improving small 4x4 pickups for the American market from the very beginning. They really earned their following. I'm an unapologetic Ford guy, so they never really appealed to me,
but you've got to give Toyota credit for how they've promoted and improved these vehicles over the years.
While all vehicles tend to have some issues Toyota especially the Tacoma is NOT the truck it use to be. With all the new mid size trucks coming into the market they better step up their game. Of course the Toyota fan boys will never admit an of this and continue to buy them because "they have great resale value".Long known for its reliability, the Toyota Tacoma has been off its game since its redesign for the 2016 model year. The problem seems to be largely due to the new 6-speed automatic transmission and 3.5L V6 2GR-(FKS) introduced for the pickup. Numerous owners have complained and Toyota has issued two technical service bulletins and two recalls to address the various problems.
A big recall of 228,000 2016-2017 Toyota Tacoma pickups for a leaky differential causing a host of problems has also played a factor in reliability rankings.
Finally, Toyota issued a recall of 32,000 2016-2017 Toyota Tacoma V6 pickups to address an issue with the crankshaft position sensor may malfunction due to too much anti-corrosion coating on the crankshaft timing rotor.
As they say, "past performance is no guarantee of future results". I still expect a crash in used tacoma pricing at some point, just don't know when. It only takes a little change in buyer demand to change the supply/demand economics, and there are a lot of tacomas out there that people want to sell. It'll be worst for the people who are in too deep because they're "sure" they can get their money out since a used tacoma will never decrease in value--which has never been true of anything.continue to buy them because "they have great resale value".
Great resale value is important in a vehicle you can't wait to get rid of...... "they have great resale value".