Use Flood Mode when changing oil.

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I still pump the gas pedal before i start the ranger.
Ya, and keep the choke knob pushed in 'til she turns over a few times then pull'er out and she'll start right up.
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How ever did engines go 200,000 miles all the time without even knowing about flood mode?!?!

What AAA says about warming up your car:

AAA Auto Repair recommends

"Want to know if you really need to warm up the car engine before driving, even during the cold winter months? AAA provides auto care tips that help you keep your vehicle running smoothly every season of the year.

Myth: To improve performance, particularly in cold weather, allow the engine to run for a few minutes before driving.

Fact: Start the engine and allow it to idle only for the time it takes you to fasten your seat belt. This ensures that lubricating oil gets to all of the engine's vital parts. Driving the car normally and avoiding hard acceleration brings the engine to a warmer temperature faster, and also reduces wear and exhaust emissions. Naturally, a little longer idle time is ok in winter while you clear snow and ice from the windshield and other car parts."


Advanced lubricants keep parts coated after the engine is off, reducing the need for warmups.

Let's see how the convo goes!
 

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How ever did engines go 200,000 miles all the time without even knowing about flood mode?!?!

What AAA says about warming up your car:

AAA Auto Repair recommends

"Want to know if you really need to warm up the car engine before driving, even during the cold winter months? AAA provides auto care tips that help you keep your vehicle running smoothly every season of the year.

Myth: To improve performance, particularly in cold weather, allow the engine to run for a few minutes before driving.

Fact: Start the engine and allow it to idle only for the time it takes you to fasten your seat belt. This ensures that lubricating oil gets to all of the engine's vital parts. Driving the car normally and avoiding hard acceleration brings the engine to a warmer temperature faster, and also reduces wear and exhaust emissions. Naturally, a little longer idle time is ok in winter while you clear snow and ice from the windshield and other car parts."


Advanced lubricants keep parts coated after the engine is off, reducing the need for warmups.

Let's see how the convo goes!
I used to live in Minnesota where it would get to 40 below zero. There ain't no way in hell I'm gonna throw it in drive immediately after startup lol.


Also I do enjoy when companies that were created to tow/service broken down vehicles offer advice on how to operate said vehicles.
 

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I’ve always cranked my cars and let them run until the idle falls to the baseline level. In the Ranger, that’s around 900 rpm and takes about a minute when the engine is cold. It’s probably unnecessary, but it seems like every vehicle has a built in cold start up process and I like to let them go through it.
 

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The oil pump pushes the same amount of oil per crank regardless of motor rpm. If it takes 20 rotations to get the top end running using the starter, it will take 20 rotations at idle. The only potential difference is ~200 rpm vs ~500 rpm.
 

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I used to live in Minnesota where it would get to 40 below zero. There ain't no way in hell I'm gonna throw it in drive immediately after startup lol.


Also I do enjoy when companies that were created to tow/service broken down vehicles offer advice on how to operate said vehicles.
You missed: " Naturally, a little longer idle time is ok in winter while you clear snow and ice from the windshield and other car parts."

You do You!
 

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The oil pump pushes the same amount of oil per crank regardless of motor rpm. If it takes 20 rotations to get the top end running using the starter, it will take 20 rotations at idle. The only potential difference is ~200 rpm vs ~500 rpm.
yeah, I’m not worried at all about the oil. I just assume there is some reason the cold startup is programmed to run is at higher rpms in practically every vehicle Ive ever driven, so I give it time to do it’s thing. May be a waste of time, but I’m not in a hurry.
 

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yeah, I’m not worried at all about the oil. I just assume there is some reason the cold startup is programmed to run is at higher rpms in practically every vehicle Ive ever driven, so I give it time to do it’s thing. May be a waste of time, but I’m not in a hurry.
That comment was directed at the flood start, not warm-up time.

I warm-up all winter, and for AC on hot days in the summer. Black truck, black leather interior.
 

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How ever did engines go 200,000 miles all the time without even knowing about flood mode?!?!

What AAA says about warming up your car:

AAA Auto Repair recommends

"Want to know if you really need to warm up the car engine before driving, even during the cold winter months? AAA provides auto care tips that help you keep your vehicle running smoothly every season of the year.

Myth: To improve performance, particularly in cold weather, allow the engine to run for a few minutes before driving.

Fact: Start the engine and allow it to idle only for the time it takes you to fasten your seat belt. This ensures that lubricating oil gets to all of the engine's vital parts. Driving the car normally and avoiding hard acceleration brings the engine to a warmer temperature faster, and also reduces wear and exhaust emissions. Naturally, a little longer idle time is ok in winter while you clear snow and ice from the windshield and other car parts."


Advanced lubricants keep parts coated after the engine is off, reducing the need for warmups.

Let's see how the convo goes!
Here in arctics we use either electric block heater or webasto/ebersprach fuel heaters. Block heater is usually extended with cabin heater where as fuel heaters utilize the coolant loop for cabin heating.

That way the cabin and engine is already warm before you leave the house :)
 

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about as necessary as filling the new oil filter up before installing although I think the horizontal mounting on the Ranger makes that a bit of a challenge. modern engine lubrication systems pump oil and build pressure quickly. However i rarely floor the accelerator so maybe I'll do it just for the sake of practice.
 

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I actually just tried this since I just finished changing my oil. Engine certainly did have less of a sewing machine sound compared to a general cold start. I’ll certainly start doing this the first start after an oil change.

Great tip!
 
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I actually just tried this since I just finished changing my oil. Engine certainly did have less of a sewing machine sound compared to a general cold start. I’ll certainly start doing this the first start after an oil change.

Great tip!
Well, thank you but No No its already been declared useless and pointless by the amateur powertrain engineers on here so sorry..Ha!
 

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Well, thank you but No No its already been declared useless and pointless by the amateur powertrain engineers on here so sorry..Ha!
I am open to anyone explaining the benefits.

If for example, flood mode ran the oil pump without spinning the motor, or engaged an alternate oil pump system to wet the top end, I would immediately concede that is a benefit.
 
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I am open to anyone explaining the benefits.

If for example, flood mode ran the oil pump without spinning the motor, or engaged an alternate oil pump system to wet the top end, I would immediately concede that is a benefit.
I mean he says all there really is to say about it in the video. No one is saying everyone should be doing this all the time. Only that it might be a good idea to do when you first start after changing the oil, or your vehicle is rattling on start up after sitting for some period of time.

Not sure how we got off on warming your engine up when it’s cold either, that’s not what this is about at all.
 

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I mean he says all there really is to say about it in the video. No one is saying everyone should be doing this all the time. Only that it might be a good idea to do when you first start after changing the oil, or your vehicle is rattling on start up after sitting for some period of time.

Not sure how we got off on warming your engine up when it’s cold either, that’s not what this is about at all.
Yes, in the video he said "If you need to pre-fill the oil filter" but as I explained that is really not achieved with flood mode. Pre-fill the oil filter? What? He really didn't explain anything other than how to achieve flood mode, which literally cuts off the fuel, and nothing else. Every part of your motor that has friction will have the exact same amount of friction whether it starts regularly or under flood mode. Motor rpm is the only variable. Arguably at starter speed, as the oil pump is not at recommended operating speed, it may actually pump less efficiently, therefore causing increased amount of friction.

I'm not telling anyone not to do it, just expressing my understanding of what is happening and wondering where the benefit is.
 
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