Semiconductor Chip Shortage Could Last For Years, Says Intel CEO

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https://fordauthority.com/2021/05/semiconductor-chip-shortage-could-last-for-years-says-intel-ceo/

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[F150stxguy]

Open/relocate the plants here in Texas. We are open for business.

 

[AzScorpion]

There's an ongoing thread about this from January here.

 

[Tom_C]

I once worked in semiconductor manufacturing. There are many issues that are happening now, some with the pandemic causing slow downs in production with work stoppage, some political with tensions between China and Taiwan.

You can't just restart production and start pumping out chips next week. It takes MONTHS to build the chips, probably six months is the shortest nowadays with the complexity. These chips for cars are probably on the lower end of complexity, so six months is best case. And, to meet demand you must have that production ramped up and pumping out product for a long time to catch up.

As for just moving the production on shore and start up next month? Aint gonna happen. New plants for major products cost BILLIONS of dollars. Not to mention the talent to support them. There are some lower end workers (operators), mid range workers (techs) and engineers which can be new grads. But you still need experienced engineers (years of experience, masters and PHDs). Guess what, those guys already have jobs. You can't just post job openings on Craigslist and hire them tomorrow.

It's very complicated.

 

[Leftcoast]

Open/relocate the plants here in Texas. We are open for business.

I thought one of the plants that went down was in Texas. You may be open for business but your electrical system apparently sucks.

 

[F150stxguy]

I thought one of the plants that went down was in Texas. You may be open for business but your electrical system apparently sucks.

“Leftcoast” talking to me about electric grids. Please, for the love of God, you had better be from Oregon or Washington lol.

 

[FoD]

... There are many issues that are happening now, some with the pandemic causing slow downs in production with work stoppage, some political with tensions between China and Taiwan.

You can't just restart production and start pumping out chips next week. ...

It's very complicated.

But, you can sell your company or move offshore for cheaper labor and sell at a higher price for better profit and on and on and on. This has been an on going process since the early 80's, as soon as "somebody" stole/sold all the R&D work...and began the elimination/assimilation of manufacturing prowess...and not just in chips, but just about every field except coffee and I do mean every field.

 

[Leftcoast]

“Leftcoast” talking to me about electric grids. Please, for the love of God, you had better be from Oregon or Washington lol.

Oregon and Washington are our poor red headed step children. Get back to me when your state economy cracks 2 trillion a year. We’ll probably be cracking 3 about the same time.

 

[Rocketeer61]

Sounds like it might be time to simplify things.

 

[F150stxguy]

Oregon and Washington are our poor red headed step children. Get back to me when your state economy cracks 2 trillion a year. We’ll probably be cracking 3 about the same time.

Hell, that won’t be long seeing as how I see California license plates daily, on I20 in West Texas, undoubtably bound for Austin, San Antonio, Dallas or Houston. Fleeing your state like rats on a sinking ship. Your state is losing population. And their number one destination is here. Interesting huh?

I can’t believe you talked shit about an electrical grid being from California. That’s rich.

Keep closed bro.

 

[Tom_C]

But, you can sell your company or move offshore for cheaper labor and sell at a higher price for better profit and on and on and on. This has been an on going process since the early 80's, as soon as "somebody" stole/sold all the R&D work...and began the elimination/assimilation of manufacturing prowess...and not just in chips, but just about every field except coffee and I do mean every field.

Yeah. And?

 

[FoD]

Yeah. And?

You get a "service economy" at the mercy and whim of an industrial one.

The pandemic was nothing to the economy, the panicked response is what collapsed an expansion economy into a recessive economy, and the reversion to govt intervention into all facets.

 

[Leftcoast]

Hell, that won’t be long seeing as how I see California license plates daily, on I20 in West Texas, undoubtably bound for Austin, San Antonio, Dallas or Houston. Fleeing your state like rats on a sinking ship. Your state is losing population. And their number one destination is here. Interesting huh?

I can’t believe you talked shit about an electrical grid being from California. That’s rich.

Keep closed bro.

We have IIRC about 35 million people as of the last census. You can have 5 million. We’ll make more.

edit
I was wrong. It’s 40 million.

 

[Tom_C]

You get a "service economy" at the mercy and whim of an industrial one.

The pandemic was nothing to the economy, the panicked response is what collapsed an expansion economy into a recessive economy, and the reversion to govt intervention into all facets.

Right, sure

 

[FoD]

We have IIRC about 35 million people as of the last census. You can have 5 million. We’ll make more.

edit
I was wrong. It’s 40 million.

Right, sure

and they'll be as moronic

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