New Intercooler

[Gsxrdoug]

https://fordauthority.com/2021/11/livernois-announces-ford-ranger-2-3l-ecoboost-i-4-intercooler/

claiming 80% colder temps over stock.

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[FireSpark]

I wonder what aftermarket charge pipes will work with it.
I've heard that mishimotos intercooler won't fit nicely with other charge pipes, i.e. AFE.
I could be mistaken though.

 

[taildraggerpilot]

I wonder what aftermarket charge pipes will work with it.
I've heard that mishimotos intercooler won't fit nicely with other charge pipes, i.e. AFE.
I could be mistaken though.

Mishimoto charge pipes reuse the factory intercooler couplings. I don’t see how there intercooler would not play nicely with other charge pipe fabricators. Perhaps you have the wrong culprit in mind.

 

[Racket]

What I'm reading (besides the article's pitch for Livernois' tuning) is there is more flow to their intercooler over stock=lower temps=more horsepower. Pretty sure that would apply to any replacement IC yet has that been shown?

It makes sense at face value but I'd expect that - besides a tune - there would need to be other mechanical upgrades in addition.

 

[Dgc333]

Intercoolers don't make more power, they cool the air coming from the turbo so the ECU doesn't pull timing which reduces power. A good intercooler will allow the tune to be more aggressive which will make more power.

The intercooler that the factory uses on the Ecoboost Mustang is woefully undersize. Even after one 0 to 60 run it is overwhelmed heat soaks and no longer effectively cools the charge and the power drops off dramatically. The concensus is you need to upgrade the intercooler before making any other performance mods.

The Ranger intercooler is significantly larger than the Mustangs. In the short time I have had my Ranger I have not experienced any heat soak. I would think that in the case of the Ranger it is not as important to upgrade it.

 

[Rviator]

How is this claim of "80% colder than stock" calculated? Are they using Fahrenheit, Celsius, or perhaps from absolute zero? Hmmm

 

[Gsxrdoug]

How is this claim of "80% colder than stock" calculated? Are they using Fahrenheit, Celsius, or perhaps from absolute zero? Hmmm

No Idea.

 

[importfighter01]

With a front grill that maximizes airflow over the intercooler (like the one in my avatar) I consistently log ACT temps only 7 deg over IAT. From a cooling perspective, the factory Ranger intercooler is very efficient when max airflow is achieved over its surface area.

Mishimoto found minimal temp drop on its intercooler too (they published the data). The only way they made more power was adding on the intercooler pipes. This shows that the intercooler can prove to be a restriction to the intake path, and letting things breath easier between the turbo and throttle body is beneficial. So to gain any real benefit from an aftermarket intercooler it needs to be paired up with some bigger aftermarket charge pipes. But again, the power addition is not from IC cooling efficiency, but from flow efficiency.

 

[Danager]

How is this claim of "80% colder than stock" calculated? Are they using Fahrenheit, Celsius, or perhaps from absolute zero? Hmmm

Questioning the validity of the claim and the process?
As for units, it doesn’t matter. They could use MTTU (monkey testicle thermal units). Units are units and math is math.

 

[BassRanger]

The direct quote is " increases cooling capability 80 percent over the stock Ford Ranger setup". If they are saying they managed to increase thermal efficiency of that system by 80%, I would really like to see that data. That is a substantial increase in cooling capacity.

I'm a bit perplexed at the demand for aftermarket intercoolers for these trucks. To my knowledge, no one has effectively demonstrated a need. Because this is a truck, Ford could not skimp on the charge cooler. In towing situations these engines can be exposed to long periods of sustained boost. If the charge cooler was inadequate, these engines would eventually start suffering from temp creep and would end up overheating. 3 years in and I haven't seen any reports of this.

Not to say that improvements can't be made, but with these $600+ units are you actually getting? Better 1/4 mile times, quicker 0-60, better towing performance, better passing performance? At some point all this theory has to manifest into some tangible performance benefit, and you would sale a lot more product if you could clearly demonstrate this benefit. Mishimoto is the only company I've seen post some actual coherent data, and it was honestly underwhelming.

 

[Gixxers]

With a front grill that maximizes airflow over the intercooler (like the one in my avatar) I consistently log ACT temps only 7 deg over IAT. From a cooling perspective, the factory Ranger intercooler is very efficient when max airflow is achieved over its surface area.

Mishimoto found minimal temp drop on its intercooler too (they published the data). The only way they made more power was adding on the intercooler pipes. This shows that the intercooler can prove to be a restriction to the intake path, and letting things breath easier between the turbo and throttle body is beneficial. So to gain any real benefit from an aftermarket intercooler it needs to be paired up with some bigger aftermarket charge pipes. But again, the power addition is not from IC cooling efficiency, but from flow efficiency.

What grill are you running?

 

[Superdannyboy]

What if I said that bigger charge pipes were the real bang for the buck and that buying an IC after that is a lot of money for little gain, what would you guys argue? *sips coffee*

 

[importfighter01]

What if I said that bigger charge pipes were the real bang for the buck and that buying an IC after that is a lot of money for little gain, what would you guys argue? *sips coffee*

Mishimoto has the data on bigger charge pipes posted on their website. So does aFe.

 

[Superdannyboy]

Mishimoto has the data on bigger charge pipes posted on their website. So does aFe.

Agree, I am a mishi fanboy for the engineering blogs.

 

[importfighter01]

What grill are you running?

https://www.amazon.com/Ranger-Repla...cphy=1015254&hvtargid=pla-1417344182359&psc=1

Not that exact one but same style.

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