Long range fuel tank

[AvockAdoo]

I'm also in for a mid-upper 20's gallon tank. The tank size and slow passenger window roll up are the only things I DONT like about this truck.

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[LB357]

I'd be in for one as well, would love to save bed space by not having to carry jerry cans.

 

[subquark]

I'd love some quality option for trailering. My old FJ40 has an 18 gallon tank and I added a baffled 22 gallon auxiliary tank that has it's own filler cap and separate fuel pump (and it sits under the bed between the frame with plenty of ground clearance). It's kind of like a motorcycle, you run out of fuel in one and switch the the other via a switch on the dash.

I guess, like most of us, it boils down to cost. If it was similar to that one from Australia that fits up into existing space, then up to $1,400? Probably a naive and very wishful-thinking price!

 

[Travis9935]

Incorrect sir. When I meet with the guys at LRA in Idaho I was able to to learn a replacement tank is legal as long as it meets dot standards. A second tank/Auxiliary tank is a little tough for EPA reasons. Not impossible but tough

Why is it every place I've contacted said due to new epa regulations we can't tamper with them anymore!?

 

[Colo_Ranger]

Why is it every place I've contacted said due to new epa regulations we can't tamper with them anymore!?

They may say they can't, but what they really mean is "it's not worth their effort". While not the same thing, both hold the EPA responsible.

 

[Gizmokid2005]

Why is it every place I've contacted said due to new epa regulations we can't tamper with them anymore!?

It's easier to blame someone else than to say "it's not a big enough market to be profitable" when turning people down.

CARB gets a lot of that in CA too, despite the path existing to be certifiable and usable out here, most places just blame it as being prohibitive instead of certifying for sale.

 

[Travis9935]

Either way I definitely want at least a 26 gallon+ tank, but I'll believe it when I see it

 

[awd.nv]

Traction boards and 10 Gal of gas, this works fine for me as I don't haul a lot of gear off road. I have since added a tool box between the cans to go along with the 2 swing cases for recovery gear. And the can spouts fit the capless filler fine without a funnel.

That is basically what I do too but have a throw blanket, then traction boards, then Jerry cans. The outdoor throw is in case I need to get on hot asphalt in the summer.

It's easier to blame someone else than to say "it's not a big enough market to be profitable" when turning people down.

CARB gets a lot of that in CA too, despite the path existing to be certifiable and usable out here, most places just blame it as being prohibitive instead of certifying for sale.

Both may be true. Generally, getting something certified is VERY expensive. Who knows how many gas tanks they would need to destroy in the process of getting the certification. Not to mention who knows how much the actual cost of the certification itself.

I was asked about designing a computer for a client but was told the company needed to drop test them among other test. I passed, not enough profit for the amount of systems they needed.

 

[JesseS]

That is basically what I do too but have a throw blanket, then traction boards, then Jerry cans. The outdoor throw is in case I need to get on hot asphalt in the summer.



Both may be true. Generally, getting something certified is VERY expensive. Who knows how many gas tanks they would need to destroy in the process of getting the certification. Not to mention who knows how much the actual cost of the certification itself.

I was asked about designing a computer for a client but was told the company needed to drop test them among other test. I passed, not enough profit for the amount of systems they needed.

I carry a tarp in a swing case, won't do much for hot asphalt but will keep me off the ground if needed. There are people who really need that larger tank, either because of location or they spend a lot of time off road. Most all of my off road time is from base camp and are day trips, so the extra 10 gallons in the cans are fine for the few times I might need them. I tow the Ranger so keeping the weight down is important, so I don't fill it or the cans until the last stop before camp.

 

[Jbrubakerjr]

Started this thread for a poll to be sent to a potential manufacturer

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/oversized-oem-replacement-fuel-tank.19426/#post-408496

 

[awd.nv]

I carry a tarp in a swing case, won't do much for hot asphalt but will keep me off the ground if needed. There are people who really need that larger tank, either because of location or they spend a lot of time off road. Most all of my off road time is from base camp and are day trips, so the extra 10 gallons in the cans are fine for the few times I might need them. I tow the Ranger so keeping the weight down is important, so I don't fill it or the cans until the last stop before camp.

I am with you. We tow a 19ft travel trailer (1-2 times a month) and man, I really wish this had an extra 5 gallons from the factory, it is a darn truck not a crossover. Most of our trips have plenty of gas stations along the way. Some of the desert trips I bring the Jerry cans just in case.

 

[Batwood2000]

I suppose it has been a while since any progress was made on this, but doing some research, I noticed that the new F-150 fuel tanks have the same straps, and fuel pumps as the Rangers do. I need to measure the distance between the straps to see if they are different.

 

[Frenchy]

I suppose it has been a while since any progress was made on this, but doing some research, I noticed that the new F-150 fuel tanks have the same straps, and fuel pumps as the Rangers do. I need to measure the distance between the straps to see if they are different.

Due to different cab bed and chassis I dont belive the tank will fit. You can attempt but I wont promise it for you

 

[OFC Ranger]

It's easier to blame someone else than to say "it's not a big enough market to be profitable" when turning people down.

CARB gets a lot of that in CA too, despite the path existing to be certifiable and usable out here, most places just blame it as being prohibitive instead of certifying for sale.

Well when government entities force them to pay their certification and testing fees how can you blame them.

In an unrelated industry (vaping) shops use to make their own in-house juice from the same materials as big name manufacturers. Then the government finally came out and said each and every flavor had to be FDA tested and approved at something like $150,000 a pop supposedly. Shops selling house made juice sometimes had for example 50 different flavors.

Keep in mind vape juice (for the unfamiliar) only contains 4 ingredients. 1 being the flavor concentrate, the other 3 ingredients are exactly the same across the entire industry.

So the result was obvious, vape shops only sell juice by the big name companies now. I can only imagine how many had to close up shop as the profit on house-made was not only much cheaper for the customer, but also much higher profit margin for the business.

 

[MrBirdman330]

Well when government entities force them to pay their certification and testing fees how can you blame them.

In an unrelated industry (vaping) shops use to make their own in-house juice from the same materials as big name manufacturers. Then the government finally came out and said each and every flavor had to be FDA tested and approved at something like $150,000 a pop supposedly. Shops selling house made juice sometimes had for example 50 different flavors.

Keep in mind vape juice (for the unfamiliar) only contains 4 ingredients. 1 being the flavor concentrate, the other 3 ingredients are exactly the same across the entire industry.

So the result was obvious, vape shops only sell juice by the big name companies now. I can only imagine how many had to close up shop as the profit on house-made was not only much cheaper for the customer, but also much higher profit margin for the business.

EPA certifications are six figures as well depending on what needs to be tested. So when you are paying $100,00 plus to strap a different sized tank to a truck, make sure it doesn't increase emissions due to extra weight because they will, followed by evaporation testing, crash damage testing and most likely half a dozen other pointless testing, the market better be big to get a return on the investment.

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