January 2021 Consumer reports, just received

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F150, Ranger, Super Duty, Edge, Escape, Expedition, and Explorer recalled because backup cameras occasionally go blank or distorted image increasing risk of crash.

2021 Compact Pickups Grades are rated higher the number, more reliable: Jeep Gladiator 99; Honda Ridgeline 62; Toyota Tacoma 58; Ford Ranger 29; Chevrolet Colorado 26, GMC Canyon 26.

All based on 1-3 year old models in each of 17 key areas over the previous 12 months...feedback from vehicle owners.





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Wait, how much did Fiat Chrysler pay them to say that the Jeep Gladiator was the most reliable compact truck out there? I’ve got two friends with Gladiators and neither of them have gone a year without the electrical gremlins showing up in one way or another.
 

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Regardless of how high they rate the Gladiator, it will always be fugly.
 

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F150, Ranger, Super Duty, Edge, Escape, Expedition, and Explorer recalled because backup cameras occasionally go blank or distorted image increasing risk of crash.

2021 Compact Pickups Grades are rated higher the number, more reliable: Jeep Gladiator 99; Honda Ridgeline 62; Toyota Tacoma 58; Ford Ranger 29; Chevrolet Colorado 26, GMC Canyon 26.

All based on 1-3 year old models in each of 17 key areas over the previous 12 months...feedback from vehicle owners.
If someone gave me a Gladiator, I'd turn around and sell it.

In no way can I believe it's more reliable than a Honda/Toyota/Ford
 

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Regardless of how high they rate the Gladiator, it will always be fugly.
it would have been popular in the 90's when the Cherokee sport and Commanche were a hit..now it just looks dated and trying too hard.

As far as recalls go we are unpaid beta-testers for my wife's '20 Escape Hybrid..going back yet again for broken cup holder in front console and wireless phone charger inoperable. Its been in about 6 times for random fit 'n finish stuff. Mechanically its awesome and gets her 40 mpg. Lucky we have a good service center and two great service managers who share running the dept. they always get her a ride home or a loaner if she cant remote office at home for the day or two. and when the tech-monkeys make a mistake that I see they make it right. On my Ranger it gets hand washed and parked/locked way off to the side so it does not get dinged. They understood when I told them I'm a 'car guy' and have an eye for details...one of only a few who have in a long time. So its nice that I dont have to go in and jump in their $hit for dumb $hit..;)
 

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it would have been popular in the 90's when the Cherokee sport and Commanche were a hit..now it just looks dated and trying too hard.

As far as recalls go we are unpaid beta-testers for my wife's '20 Escape Hybrid..going back yet again for broken cup holder in front console and wireless phone charger inoperable. Its been in about 6 times for random fit 'n finish stuff. Mechanically its awesome and gets her 40 mpg. Lucky we have a good service center and two great service managers who share running the dept. they always get her a ride home or a loaner if she cant remote office at home for the day or two. and when the tech-monkeys make a mistake that I see they make it right. On my Ranger it gets hand washed and parked/locked way off to the side so it does not get dinged. They understood when I told them I'm a 'car guy' and have an eye for details...one of only a few who have in a long time. So its nice that I dont have to go in and jump in their $hit for dumb $hit..;)
The Commanche pick-up was pretty cool and looked like a regular pick-up instead of like a Jeep with an awkward afterthought. Actually, it looked a lot like a first generation Ranger.
 

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The Comanches had that sweet Renault 4.0 liter straight six when Renault owned AMC. One of the most refined engines of its day.
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Hi Folks,

When you are behind the scenes and dealing with Consumer Reports, you realize that you bite the bullet on reading this Mag as required by Ford until retirement. I cancelled my subscription and would never entertain resubscribing. So full of BS!

Phil Schilke
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Don't believe every thing you read.............
Especially since another magazine has rated the 2021 Ranger as #2 best "compact" pickup, just under the Ridgeline (which some of you may not even consider a truck so therefore the Ranger is #1 then).

You can always find the answers you want to see/read, no matter what the actual truth is. The "joys" of human nature, exacerbated by the internet. FCA and it's fans will use Consumer Reports, Ford and it's fans will use US News. I'm sure Chevy has a favorite magazine and Toyota is listed good a lot of places.
 

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Hi Folks,

When you are behind the scenes and dealing with Consumer Reports, you realize that you bite the bullet on reading this Mag as required by Ford until retirement. I cancelled my subscription and would never entertain resubscribing. So full of BS!

Phil Schilke
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Phil,

I'd like to hear your experience with CR and the issues you have with them. As far as automotive media goes, I would put them at the top of the list in terms of being unbiased. They buy long term test vehicles and rent short term test drivers rather than taking free inventory from manufacturers. They have dedicated individual test people in most areas of the car from tires to child seat installation.

As far as the rating goes, when I bought my 2019 in May 2020, part of the reason I went with this over the Ridgeline was because the CR scores were very high for the Ford (Ridgeline was still higher but the other reason I didn't get one of those was because it's ugly as sin). I was disappointed when I got the big yearly auto review issue to find that the scores for the Ranger dropped significantly. However, after reading this sub regularly, it's not surprising considering the myriad of issues that we've had. I believe that the initial high ratings were based on the fact that this Ranger has been sold abroad for years and the powertrain was already in use in other Ford vehicles. As far as first-year vehicles go, the 2019 Ranger was a pretty safe bet to be reliable. Powertrain major still has good scores, but it's all the other issues that we've been having that brought the reliability score down.

The 2020 model still has high scores at CR It's the 2019 that's the issue on CR's site.
 

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Maybe just me, but I find that the vast majority of people are morons. That is to say, I could care less what their ratings are.
 

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