Fuel in oil

[2ford]

My oil is over full an smells like gas. I have 2400 miles on it, never use the start/stop an drive about 11 miles each way to work so it should get good an warm. Been avg around 18-19 combined with 87. I ran a tank of 91 an got 17 mpg but we had a cold snap. I rarely use the sport mode either. I'm just over a quarter tank into this tank an I tried 89 an it's been quite a bit warmer an so far it's a little over 20 mpg.

I made an appointment at the dealership svc department for next Fri. I asked if they had any complaints of gas in the oil an they said none at all. I'm hoping for a free oil change to get rid of the gassy oil an hope it goes away.

You need to tell them to check the fuel pump, you need to notify Ford Corperate, changing the oil will help BUT not if they dont do anything about fuel getting into the oil.

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[Langwilliams]

what do I need to notify corporate about? If they don't find anything?

You need to tell them to check the fuel pump, you need to notify Ford Corperate, changing the oil will help BUT not if they dont do anything about fuel getting into the oil.

 

[BcP28]

Pulled an oil sample about a week ago at around 2000 miles on my current oil. Got the sample back and 'surprise', there's fuel in the oil ?‍ The interesting thing this time around is that I didn't observe a noticeable increase in the oil level; it's consistently been right at the top hole on the dipstick, although measuring what is drained would be a better indicator. I also don't notice the fuel smell as much, but do catch a whiff every now and then...wonder if I'm just getting used to it.

I'm coming up on 3000 miles on the same oil now, so will go ahead and schedule with the dealership again to see if they can look further into the issue this time, and at a minimum, get the oil changed.

 

[2ford]

what do I need to notify corporate about? If they don't find anything?

Really, you stated the crankcase is overfilled and oil smells of gas. I suggest you read this "fuel in oil" Thread from the first post. Also read your owners manual IE: The part about overfilling the crankcase

 

[Langwilliams]

I thought there might be a TSB to reference

 

[2ford]

I thought there might be a TSB to reference

Unfortunately i don't think there is one yet. That's why if you have that issue you should report it. As I mentioned earlier read this thread so you have some good info when you see your dealer. Good luck and keep us informed of your results.

 

[2ford]

Well, been watching and following, to see if anyone has had any luck at the dealer level on this subject, I have not.

My rig has been sitting at the local dealer waiting on corporate to come to conclusion on a fix.
I will keep driving the loaner, sooner or later, I imaging something will come to a head?

2800 miles on the truck, have changed the oil twice (so three fills including the factory)
Oil samples on each change, results show high fuel dilution and low oil viscosity.
Dealer was notified at each change and sent results, they inspected the vehicle and concurs on the fuel dilution.
My breaking point was after the second change, turned a/c on and was pretty much over come in the cab by fuel vapor, truck went straight to the dealer.
That said, Corporate is hiding there head in the sand, and dealer has no resolution as of now.
If I hear anything, will post....

Threw a picture on of my catch can that I was emptying every 200 + or - miles pretty much gas with a hint of condensate and a bit of oil, yes I did sample this also and it was off the scale that the lab could sample.

Sorry for your predicament. I dont understand why the dealer isn't attempting to fix it, What ever happened to diagnosis and repair like maybe replace the fuel pump. At least they kept it and gave you a loaner to use, that's better than some of the other dealer responses that have been posted. Good luck

 

[Langwilliams]

quick question here....I heard these engines have forged pistons...they take a little longer to heat up an expand an seal (thinking back to my old 5.0 mustang days). could that play a part in this?

 

[HenryMac]

quick question here....I heard these engines have forged pistons...they take a little longer to heat up an expand an seal (thinking back to my old 5.0 mustang days). could that play a part in this?

The rings are used for sealing purposes.. not the piston itself.

The crankshaft and rods are forged... but the pistons... ?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/detroit-auto-show/a15840269/ford-focus-rs-ranger-engine/

 

[Lunchbox88]

Just changed my oil (~6k miles) and it definitely smelled like fuel. Sending a sample off to Blackstone this week for analysis. Will report back.

 

[quirkybar8]

Just changed my oil (~6k miles) and it definitely smelled like fuel. Sending a sample off to Blackstone this week for analysis. Will report back.

Did you check the level prior to changing it? As has been discussed here, smell and oil analysis isn't likely to get your dealer's attention.

 

[Lunchbox88]

Did you check the level prior to changing it? As has been discussed here, smell and oil analysis isn't likely to get your dealer's attention.

Slightly overfull

 

[Da Ranger]

Going back in tomorrow to have my level checked and an oil sample pulled. About 1.5 k on oil change. Dealer is wanting to see if it is overfilled and if viscosity has changed again.

 

[OWSportninja]

Sorry for the crappy picture of a printout but this is the back and forth between the tech and Ford on my Ranger. They basically concluded it was fine and reasonable and that it was "doing its job" since I have no drive-ability concerns. So me being me said "F" it im just gonna send it. Filled up with 93 octane and re flashed my 93 octane tune from Torrie @ Unleashed and im just going to keep an eye on the oil level and go to 3-4k mile intervals on the oil changes.

 

[Da Ranger]

Sorry for the crappy picture of a printout but this is the back and forth between the tech and Ford on my Ranger. They basically concluded it was fine and reasonable and that it was "doing its job" since I have no drive-ability concerns. So me being me said "F" it im just gonna send it. Filled up with 93 octane and re flashed my 93 octane tune from Torrie @ Unleashed and im just going to keep an eye on the oil level and go to 3-4k mile intervals on the oil changes.

So Ford doesn’t recognize outside lab tests, but they refuse to do their own at my dealership.

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