2022 transmission needs "overhaul" - just left the dealer.

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Anyone have a aftermarket ECU tune that adjusts the shift logic. I have had mine tuned with livernois soft shift tune and the truck is pretty solid. Once in a while I get some rough or jerky shifts but I also drive in tow hual mode alot of the time.
I want to get a tune, but I've been waiting to get the transmission sorted out before getting it. It sounds like ALL of the tunes improve the shifting and make the truck much smoother.

I had the valve body overhaul completed and the cdf replacement.....it's been much better since. All of the lag issues I had are gone. If it keeps running as well as it is, I'll consider the Ford tune....maybe during the next oil change.
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Will the Ford tune void the warranty?Or is it one of those thing where it can void the warranty but probably wont?
 

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Will the Ford tune void the warranty?Or is it one of those thing where it can void the warranty but probably wont?
Basic answer is NO. Just follow the instructions which you can download.
 
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Will the Ford tune void the warranty?Or is it one of those thing where it can void the warranty but probably wont?
You'll find posters on here who will claim both sides. From what I've read and gathered, I think I'll take my chances. I'll also discuss with the dealer before I get them to install it. Also, at this point, I already have multiple documented warranty issues BEFORE a tune, so I'd take my chances with having to battle with them arguing that a tune caused my problems - especially if I have any more transmission issues.
 

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Got my truck back Thursday after only three weeks. Brand new transmission with the updated drum, and so far all is well. Time will tell, but hopefully they've actually resolved that issue.
Can you post the Part # of the Transmission with the Updated Drum that the dealer installed?
 


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I want to get a tune, but I've been waiting to get the transmission sorted out before getting it. It sounds like ALL of the tunes improve the shifting and make the truck much smoother.

I had the valve body overhaul completed and the cdf replacement.....it's been much better since. All of the lag issues I had are gone. If it keeps running as well as it is, I'll consider the Ford tune....maybe during the next oil change.
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I have a 2022 Ranger. I juuust went over 30K miles. Within the last 5-10K miles, I've experienced 4-6 HARD clunking shifts from P to D and noticeably awkward shifts around 22-24 mph and 42-44 mph (both accelerating and decelerating). Also, sometimes when I first start it, it revs high and is then much, MUCH less responsive to the throttle when first moving in D.

I was due for an oil change and when I scheduled it a few weeks back, I asked if someone could also check out my transmission (and I described the issues above). They said they had 1 transmission specialist who was booked weeks out...fortunately, I didn't desperately need the oil change and I was able to wait and book with him.

I took it in today. I had it serviced and had them do a diff drain/fill. For the transmission, I honestly assumed they wouldn't be able to duplicate any of the issues and they'd hand it back to me saying they couldn't find anything....however, that was not actually the case.

To my surprise, the service advisor told me that I'd have to come back because they needed to order parts to "overhaul the transmission". He also mentioned a TSB. When I asked him specifically what the issue was, he didn't have any answers...said he was new to Ford from a Chrysler dealer and he only knew that they were seeing some issues with those 10 speed transmissions.

I got the invoice and it just says "ORDERED PARTS TO OVERHAUL TRANSMISSION."

So as crazy as it may seem, I still have no idea what the problem is. He said it was safe to drive. I didn't push for more answers....the place was busy as hell and I was honestly shocked they found anything. They'll call me back when the parts are in and they said I would be in a loaner vehicle....so it's not a quick fix.

I'll post more details when I get them, but long story short, if you're having ANY of my issues described above.....I'd recommend speaking up at your next service. I was certain they wouldn't find anything, but obviously they did. I almost didn't even bother saying anything.....

On a related side note - while I was in the waiting area, I also heard them take a call from someone with a 2023 Expedition that wouldn't shift. The owner just bought it a month ago. The service advisor who took the call told the lady to bring it in, they'll look at it today. After the call, other advisors told him to be careful with that, they only have 1 transmission guy and he's booked weeks out. If they bring in someone who calls today, they've bumped someone who's been waiting for weeks. Ford has a very obvious customer service issue. I understood both sides of the debate....valid points to both, but it's pretty F'ing sad to think that someone with a month old vehicle that won't shift could potentially have to wait WEEKS for it even to be looked at. Meanwhile, I was there for a non-emergency issue. They need some sort of emergency rating scale. Again, like I said, their customer service needs help....badly. And call me crazy, but if the dealer employs a staff of "service advisors" (they had several) you would think the issue could be explained to the customer! But nope, he basically just read whatever the tech typed up on the invoice. I've now experienced this at both local dealers I've gone to.

Also, I was chatting with another Ranger owner down in OBX NC last week....Lloyd (from Northern VA), if you're reading this, we were just talking about this! They ACTUALLY found something. Just don't know what yet....haha.
You need a better Dealer. They are not all created equal. Just contracted with Ford for Service Repair. You could go to a Chop Shop Join That is Certified and get treated like a king. Or a dealer spot where they fleece the shit out of you because their Logo in on the Sign.

In any case, good luck and please update us. I have a 22 Tremor as well. I drive it uncommonly if know what I saying. This Transmission issue is concerning to me. It is in the F-150 too. I'm almost certain they are the same. They should be overbuilt for this application.
 
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You need a better Dealer. They are not all created equal. Just contracted with Ford for Service Repair. You could go to a Chop Shop Join That is Certified and get treated like a king. Or a dealer spot where they fleece the shit out of you because their Logo in on the Sign.

In any case, good luck and please update us. I have a 22 Tremor as well. I drive it uncommonly if know what I saying. This Transmission issue is concerning to me. It is in the F-150 too. I'm almost certain they are the same. They should be overbuilt for this application.
F150, Expedition, Explore, Mustang, and Ranger have the same 10R80. Gear ratios are the same, but programmed shift points may be different. Overbuilt for Ranger? Probably. That's why the 6G will get the lighter 10R60, same as Bronco.
 

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Can you post the Part # of the Transmission with the Updated Drum that the dealer installed?
The CDF drum itself is Part #JR3Z-7J351-B to replace the defective JR3Z-7H351-A.

Three grand for a new transmission - I see why negotiating with Ford to cover hardware costs and the customer/victim of bad parts to cover labor is often an outcome.
 

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F150, Expedition, Explore, Mustang, and Ranger have the same 10R80. Gear ratios are the same, but programmed shift points may be different. Overbuilt for Ranger? Probably. That's why the 6G will get the lighter 10R60, same as Bronco.
Great. Something to break easier. "Hey Billy!!! For the the new Ranger. Lets give it more Ponies but Nerf the Tranny. People will love it!" JK. I'm sure it will be fine. I like the idea of having something that is X's stronger than the motor can push. Thank bro.
 

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Being that my build date is 8/16/22 and the TSB stops the CDF Drum replacement at (On or Before 8/15/22)
I am GUESSING I have the new version of the CDF Drum installed.
I have spoken with Ford Parts, and I can confirm that my Transmission P/N NB3Z-7000-B was only installed on the 22 MY's, but no further details are available.

So just curious if you know the P/N of the Transmission (Old) that was replaced?

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Being that my build date is 8/16/22 and the TSB stops the CDF Drum replacement at (On or Before 8/15/22)
I am GUESSING I have the new version of the CDF Drum installed.
I have spoken with Ford Parts, and I can confirm that my Transmission P/N NB3Z-7000-B was only installed on the 22 MY's, but no further details are available.

So just curious if you know the P/N of the Transmission (Old) that was replaced?

Thanks
FWIW my 03/22 build XLT Tremor has the KB3Z-7000-B transmission. Number is on the lower left portion of the tag on the passenger side of the transmission. It’s dirty but if you zoom in you can pick out the KB3Z. I have to imagine that the replacement transmission’s that are being installed are Ford remans ( with updates ) and are carrying the KB3Z part number still. Would be interesting to see if yours is tagged with the NB3Z number

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FWIW my 03/22 build XLT Tremor has the KB3Z-7000-B transmission. Number is on the lower left portion of the tag on the passenger side of the transmission. It’s dirty but if you zoom in you can pick out the KB3Z. I have to imagine that the replacement transmission’s that are being installed are Ford remans ( with updates ) and are carrying the KB3Z part number still. Would be interesting to see if yours is tagged with the NB3Z number

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My tag actually shows a different number. NB3P-7000-FA
I cannot find any info on that number, so I called the Parts Dept and they dug deeper into that number and found that is an engineering number, and it crosses over to the NB3Z-7000-B.

The only info they could find is that it is only installed on the MY22 year. No informational notes stating production times or VIN#'s it was installed on.
 

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My tag actually shows a different number. NB3P-7000-FA
I cannot find any info on that number, so I called the Parts Dept and they dug deeper into that number and found that that is an engineering number, and it crosses over to the NB3Z-7000-B.

The only info they could find is that it is only installed on the MY22 year. No informational notes stating production times or VIN#'s it was installed on.
I would take that as a good sign
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