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Discussion in 'General Ford Ranger Discussions' started by misanthrope, Aug 20, 2018.
What kind of MPG you guys think we’ll see for the Ranger? Will it be class leading?
What Ford claims it will get? Or what it actually gets?
Now that 1st reply/response was funny........
Being Ford is taking their sweet time releasing power, towing, payload, and efficiency specifications, I'd assess all those to get a good idea of where Ranger should or is expected to fall. You could start at looking at the Jeep Unlimited (JLU), w/ 2.0L turbo engine (Mild Hybrid Assist) w/ 8 speed automatic transmission to get an idea. That is rated at 22/24/22 (City/Highway/Combined). That is around where I would expect the Ranger 4x4 to fall when compared. The Jeep is still mostly a brick in the wind for highway rating, so Ranger may be slightly better in that regard, similar to Honda Ridgeline AWD highway rating of 25, as Ranger should have similar aerodynamics to aid some additional highway with those 10-speed overdrive gears. In regards to City rating, when comparing to the Jeep, I'm not sure how much that mild hybrid assists with fuel economy in the City. Even when Ford officially releases the information, your mileage may vary depending on driving technique, terrain, average speed and duration of trips. In addition, it also depends on how the tune is, does it favor real world or EPA test cycle driving. I'm not too familiar with the EPA cycle, but I thought I read somewhere that is being adjusted again (reflect more typical average human driving techniques), but I could have been dreaming or reading rubbish, maybe both, I never fact checked it.
If I were to guess and use an educated guess, Ranger 4x4 will be around 20/26/23 (City/Highway/Combined), but that is merely a guess using reasonable assumptions when comparing to the competition. I could be close, or way off, no warranty implied or expressed.
Just thought this might help when comparing the vehicles. I am not currently tracking the Jeep JT as little is known about at this time.
*** Edit - I need to include bed capacity for each.
@rduvall super helpful chart thanks for sharing. Will you be including the Jeep Scrambler also once that's revealed?
Those would be class leading numbers. Imagine we get a Ranger with class leading power, MPG and lowest pricing (all definitely possible), even without the styling advantage that is already has over the competitors, Ford won't be able to keep up with demand
Those MPG's would be class leading and if it were true, would put them extremely close to GM's I4 2.8L-TD in the Colorado/ Canyon 4x4. Of course, diesel engines are different, especially on range and towing. If Ford actually delivers on their marketing - V6 power, with I4 efficiency - then the guesstimate I posted above is plausible. Ford Ranger could very well be the most fuel efficient, but I'm not yet sold on them providing "Best in Class HP', but I can see Ford providing "Best in Class TQ" out of the gate. The question will be, for how long?
Almost any mileage beats my 2011 Jeep Wrangler 6MT/3.8L six cylinder...
@WI LION I will be updating the chart as the new vehicles are introduced. I have a few more metrics I might add down the road as well.
I'd be satisfied with best in class torque and would prefer that it's got class leading torque than class leading HP (though both would be awesome). It's not going to be a light weight pickup so the extra torque will matter more than HP.
Sweet can't wait to see.
The new JL Wrangler V6 gets an impressive 25mpg now. If the Jeep Scrambler Pickup somehow matches that, it would be class leading. Hoping Ranger Ecoboost beats them all.
@Saddle Tramp Posted in another thread that the Mexican version of the XLT 4x4 is converting to about 26MPG. While this would be class leading in the US, I would still expect the US spec Ranger to do a bit better. Remember that it has all new DANA solid rear and Dana IFS (Independent Front Suspension) axles. The IFS setup is designed to more efficient which means it won't pull the fuel economy down as much as you would expect on a 4x4 model. 23/28/25 would be some nice numbers that would lead the midsize gas pack and really push the envelope.
> 26 MPG would make a big impression with potential owners I think. And totally achievable for the US 4x2 if the Mexican market XLT 4x4 is already getting 26 MPG.
Any new predictions now that the numbers are out? I would honestly be excited about a 30 or even 28mpg goal which I think ford could reach if they wanted to. With improved 2.3L structuring and aero on the truck. There will be active grille shutters after all.
Active Grille Shutters, that's interesting. Haven't seen that listed before. Is that a standard feature on all models or specific to certain model or package?
Doesn't specify and says TBD for position so likely these trucks will have them but also a chance they can pull it.
Usually I’d say an extra electronically controlled moving part is just another potential point of failure but I think active grille shutters could be worth the trade off for utility. Pickups already have large upright front fascias and the grille is large on the Ranger so that’s gotta be bad for aero and MPG. So active grille shutters could make a significant improvement on that front.
Isn't that basically how it always is especially with the small turbo displacement engines, most of the time people end up driving it harder and have negligible mpg benefits. The added torque down low will be nice tho.
Even driving my 98" 2.5L Ranger as hard as I could, I would still get 25mpg. That engine had about half the power/torque of the new Ranger 2.3L EB and was a single cab truck which makes a difference.
The new engine is about 2x as powerful and isn't quite 2x the size. Torque is also about halfway between the class V6 options and the baby duramax (class leading fuel economy). I would expect (city/highway/combined) numbers between the Tacoma V6 (19/24/21) and the Duramax option (20/28/23). So 20/26/22 would be a good guess. Those are the numbers I am currently using a placeholders.