Fleet XL w/o bed pics and question

[Hounddog409]

I have an XL, my spare has a steel rim. The OP's photo is also an XL fleet truck, but that's aluminum. Maybe it's whatever they happen to have laying around


"A lower emission inertia weight class" what does the spare tire have to do with that?

I could see a case being made for the (4) wheels on the vehicle, but the spare? A stock XL has steel wheels, not aluminum.

My stock XL has aluminum wheels.

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[HenryMac]

My stock XL has aluminum wheels.

That's because your truck has the STX package And by default, every Saber Ranger gets the STX package.

A bone stock XL has steel wheels. Is the spare on your truck aluminum?

 

[t4thfavor]

I'm sure the wheel is aluminum because of weight savings. If they can save 7#, then they will save 7#. I'll check mine, it's a very early build, and I don't remember seeing a spoked wheel under there ever.

 

[HenryMac]

The spare rim looks pretty nice!

Once dropped down out of the truck you'll find out that spare wheel is actually a temporary 50 MPH Max spare... sometimes referred to as a "beer can alum. wheel".

The spare tire and whl is marked 50 Miles temporary. Not better. I too have steel wheels with a cheepo temp tire and beer can alum.whl.

More here:

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/why’s-my-spare-nicer-than-my-factory-wheels.4549/

 

[VAMike]

Once dropped down out of the truck you'll find out that spare wheel is actually a temporary 50 MPH Max spare... sometimes referred to as a "beer can alum. wheel".

There's nothing wrong with the wheel, but if you go too fast with mismatched wheels you'll eat your diff.

 

[HenryMac]

There's nothing wrong with the wheel, but if you go too fast with mismatched wheels you'll eat your diff.

Opinions vary...

Drive 50 mph on the highway in a 70 mph zone, see if you still have that opinion.... and wouldn't you classify "eat your diff" in the "something wrong" category?

It's a cheapskate move on Ford's part. You just spent nearly 30 grand (or more) on a truck, and they cheap out on the spare, which they don't do if you buy a few options, or buy a higher trim level.

 

[Hounddog409]

That's because your truck has the STX package And by default, every Saber Ranger gets the STX package.

A bone stock XL has steel wheels. Is the spare on your truck aluminum?

No clue. Havent looked at it yet.

I will check it out tomorrow

 

[VAMike]

Opinions vary...

Drive 50 mph on the highway in a 70 mph zone, see if you still have that opinion....

Sorry, but I file all "I can't go that slow" arguments into the same circular receptacle. It certainly is possible, even if people don't want to do it.

and wouldn't you classify "eat your diff" in the "something wrong" category?

It's pretty common in the industry to have a speed restriction on spares. Everybody ignores them, but they exist for reasons and at least you can't say you didn't know if they slap a big sticker on it.

It's a cheapskate move on Ford's part. You just spent nearly 30 grand (or more) on a truck, and they cheap out on the spare, which they don't do if you buy a few options, or buy a higher trim level.

I'm not aware of any trim which has a fully matching spare, but there are so many combinations that some might. My lariat fx4 certainly doesn't. With tire reliability as good as it is these days it seems like a reasonable place to cut costs--most modern vehicles will go to the shredder without ever having made any use of the spare. And if you see how many threads there are about people changing tires, you have to wonder what the odds would be that someone with stock wheels and tires would also happen to be one of the ones that need the spare. If you feel that you use your truck in a way that makes it more likely that you need a full service spare, it looks like at least they provided enough room to install one.

 

[HenryMac]

Sorry, but I file all "I can't go that slow" arguments into the same circular receptacle. It certainly is possible, even if people don't want to do it.


It's pretty common in the industry to have a speed restriction on spares. Everybody ignores them, but they exist for reasons and at least you can't say you didn't know if they slap a big sticker on it.


I'm not aware of any trim which has a fully matching spare, but there are so many combinations that some might. My lariat fx4 certainly doesn't. With tire reliability as good as it is these days it seems like a reasonable place to cut costs--most modern vehicles will go to the shredder without ever having made any use of the spare. And if you see how many threads there are about people changing tires, you have to wonder what the odds would be that someone with stock wheels and tires would also happen to be one of the ones that need the spare. If you feel that you use your truck in a way that makes it more likely that you need a full service spare, it looks like at least they provided enough room to install one.

My truck has a fully matching spare.... and I bought an XL.... not a Lariat. Are you sure you don't have a fully matching spare?

 

[VAMike]

My truck has a fully matching spare.... and I bought an XL.... not a Lariat. Are you sure you don't have a fully matching spare?

Yes. Wheels are 18 inch, spare is 17. Other trims have reported same size but different tire.

 

[Ranger Danger]

My truck has a fully matching spare.... and I bought an XL.... not a Lariat. Are you sure you don't have a fully matching spare?

I added into this convo sometime back...my spare is a 16R despite having the Lariat trim with 18's, so Ford did not offer a full size exact sized spare tire across all trims like thought. If you ended up with one, awesome. Toyota Tacoma's of recent 2018 - do not give you a matching exact spare, I know because I just owned one.


My girls Volvo S60 did not even have a spare tire, her XC60 does.

My Tundra did not have the same size tire as a spare, so at the end of the day most truck guys grab an exact sized tire with a matching rim or "steel" and toss it in the back. Or as suggested, you can set up a full sized spare replacing the OEM one.

Would I rather have seen a 100% matched spare - YES. Is it bizarre that we did not, NO.

 

[HenryMac]

I added into this convo sometime back...my spare is a 16R despite having the Lariat trim with 18's, so Ford did not offer a full size exact sized spare tire across all trims like thought. If you ended up with one, awesome. Toyota Tacoma's of recent 2018 - do not give you a matching exact spare, I know because I just owned one.

My girls Volvo S60 did not even have a spare tire, her XC60 does.

My Tundra did not have the same size tire as a spare, so at the end of the day most truck guys grab an exact sized tire with a matching rim or "steel" and toss it in the back. Or as suggested, you can set up a full sized spare replacing the OEM one.

Would I rather have seen a 100% matched spare - YES. Is it bizarre that we did not, NO.

Did I write that it was bizarre? I believe I said it is a cheapskate move. Your analysis reminds me of a lesson I learned as a child: (2) wrongs don't make a right.

You just spent close to 30 grand for a truck and they didn't give you a full size spare? Regardless of what the reason is that's a cheapskate move by Ford Motor Company.

The only legit excuse would be if the truck had dealer or owner installed aftermarket wheels that were to large to fit in the OEM designed spare tire space.... then that's no longer on Ford. But that's not the case here.

 

[Ranger Danger]

Did I write that it was bizarre? I believe I said it is a cheapskate move. Your analysis reminds me of a lesson I learned as a child: (2) wrongs don't make a right.

You just spent close to 30 grand for a truck and they didn't give you a full size spare? Regardless of what the reason is that's a cheapskate move by Ford Motor Company.

The only legit excuse would be if the truck had dealer or owner installed aftermarket wheels that were to large to fit in the OEM designed spare tire space.... then that's no longer on Ford. But that's not the case here.

Let's frame this the right way...Volvo...Toyota and Ford made a cheapskate move then.

 

[HenryMac]

Let's frame this the right way...Volvo...Toyota and Ford made a cheapskate move then.

I'm more concerned with truck manufacturer's. Look at the load capacity of a truck, imagine you've got your truck fully loaded and pulling a trailer and get a flat tire. You pull out that spare and compare it to the beefy looking tire and wheel your taking off the truck.

Feel confident that will work... when the manual is warning you about all the possible issues and the spare is marked 50 MPH Max?

 

[VAMike]

I'm more concerned with truck manufacturer's. Look at the load capacity of a truck, imagine you've got your truck fully loaded and pulling a trailer and get a flat tire. You pull out that spare and compare it to the beefy looking tire and wheel your taking off the truck.

Feel confident that will work?

yes. there are no listed load restrictions on the spare, only a speed restriction. the gvwr on the ranger is not at the point where extraordinarily strong wheels & tires are needed. I wouldn't put a scooter wheel on it, but that's not what ford did, either.

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