Exact changes made for Auto Start/Stop delete option.

[Scottlane1171]

Thanks for the info. The setting you named are different than what I found. I will give these a try

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[Scottlane1171]

I guess I am a little confused. On this same thread I see 2 different sets of codes for ass.

Realizing that the BCM setting is still enabled either way as I believe it keeps BMS active
BCM 726-48-02 (0100-0000-0179)
One says

FCIM 7A7-01-01 (0076-81DC-1497) enables switch
IPC 720-01-01 (2F0F-3464-7271) enables screen indicator

The other states

FCIM 7A7-01-01 (0076-81DC-1496) and
IPC 720-01-01 (3F0F-1464-7251)
I have tried both. I get on the screen after trip 2 it states ( stop start ) in bold. However I do not get the circle that shows if the ass is working such as when the engine stops the green circle lights up and if it hasn’t met the requirements it’s just greyed out.

Again I had the delete and bought the switch. Updated the settings in FORScan to each of the above. The switch when pressed states on dash that it has been deactivated/activated. Is there something that needs to be activated for the brake pedal when pressed to allow the ass to activate?
Thanks for any assistance. I know some don’t like ass but I would like to use it

Also wondering if it makes a difference if it is activated in both the as built and the user friendly one if they are cancelling each other out.

 

[miraculon]

this link seems to be broken
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1654547-auto-start-stop.html
anyone have a link that works?

It turned the link into http://ford-trucks/ instead of https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1654547-auto-start-stop.html

Not sure what happened there. Try the full link instad of the "ford-trucks" bad link.

Greg

 

[miraculon]

I guess I am a little confused. On this same thread I see 2 different sets of codes for ass.

Realizing that the BCM setting is still enabled either way as I believe it keeps BMS active
BCM 726-48-02 (0100-0000-0179)
One says

FCIM 7A7-01-01 (0076-81DC-1497) enables switch
IPC 720-01-01 (2F0F-3464-7271) enables screen indicator

The other states

FCIM 7A7-01-01 (0076-81DC-1496) and
IPC 720-01-01 (3F0F-1464-7251)
I have tried both. I get on the screen after trip 2 it states ( stop start ) in bold. However I do not get the circle that shows if the ass is working such as when the engine stops the green circle lights up and if it hasn’t met the requirements it’s just greyed out.

Again I had the delete and bought the switch. Updated the settings in FORScan to each of the above. The switch when pressed states on dash that it has been deactivated/activated. Is there something that needs to be activated for the brake pedal when pressed to allow the ass to activate?
Thanks for any assistance. I know some don’t like ass but I would like to use it

Also wondering if it makes a difference if it is activated in both the as built and the user friendly one if they are cancelling each other out.

Is your battery "state of charge" good and within the range to enable A.S.S.? If it is low, the A.S.S. won't function. Also, I don't know, but I suspect that there is some command to the powertrain controller involved that might be missing. I didn't see any ForScan item for that online.

Greg

 

[airline tech]

Since you are the first to (add it back) there may be another setting that I am missing.

All I did was do a side-by-side Comparision of the As-Built Files for alike trucks (same trims and options)
These were the ones that stand out as changed.
I will focus on (ENABLE) and as far as I know these are the only ones related to the ASS

Since we have the same (ASS Delete) the BCM - Hex-Code should read this and is unaltered as compared to all Rangers

BCM - 726-48-02 - (0100-0000-0179)

The following (2) were changed on our trucks and to enable them we change them to this:

FCIM - 7A7-01-01 - (0076-81DC-1497)

IPC - 720-01-01 - (2F0F-3464-7271)

Since this is untested - You are the first on here if I recall to actually want to enable it from a factory delete, we may have to take another look at the As-Built files and do another compare.


It appears you have it somewhat working, and it may just be you are not meeting the requirements for it to enable.
If it is not working and you are meeting the requirements for it to enable, then we need to look at other modules that may tie into ASS and may also need Hex-Code changed.
My focus at the time I did the compare, I was focused on ASS only as I was curious how Ford did it.
As you pointed out, possibly not seeing a Brake Pedal Input (signal) to enable ASS may be one (?)

Here is a detailed PDF on the ASS system from Ford attached.

 

[airline tech]

I did another compare of As Built (22 Lariat w/ASS) to (22 Lariat -Mine w/o ASS)
There are still a lot of Hex-Differences mainly in the PCM

I cannot find my (Compare Files) for Lariat to Lariat (same options) but I do have all of my other compares between the FX-4 Trail Mgmt / E-Locker with Ass and Non- FX-4 with E-Locker and ASS.

The issue is, I do not know how to read line by line of the Hex-Codes and determine exactly what is changed on those lines.
I am sure a (Tuner) can break it down.
The F-150 Forscan Spreadsheet is a big help in breaking it down, but all the Hex Lines do not exactly match the Ranger.

So, if a Hex-Line does not match in your compare, you can Google it or use the F-150 spreadsheet to possibly cypher it.

If you don't know you can pull up your As-Built Files from here (below)
You can also do online searches for the Ranger (Sales) and use the VIN # posted in the sales ad.
and use those as a comparison truck.
Now it is a tedious job to match line by line (printed copies) which is the way I do it.
There are programs out that do this for you, I tried one and it kept crashing or not getting the list to compare correctly.

Note: There are quite a few Hex-Codes that will be different as they are VIN # Related

Here is the As-Built Data Link:

Index - FordServiceInfo.Com (motorcraftservice.com)

 

[Scottlane1171]

I did another compare of As Built (22 Lariat w/ASS) to (22 Lariat -Mine w/o ASS)
There are still a lot of Hex-Differences mainly in the PCM

I cannot find my (Compare Files) for Lariat to Lariat (same options) but I do have all of my other compares between the FX-4 Trail Mgmt / E-Locker with Ass and Non- FX-4 with E-Locker and ASS.

The issue is, I do not know how to read line by line of the Hex-Codes and determine exactly what is changed on those lines.
I am sure a (Tuner) can break it down.
The F-150 Forscan Spreadsheet is a big help in breaking it down, but all the Hex Lines do not exactly match the Ranger.

So, if a Hex-Line does not match in your compare, you can Google it or use the F-150 spreadsheet to possibly cypher it.

If you don't know you can pull up your As-Built Files from here (below)
You can also do online searches for the Ranger (Sales) and use the VIN # posted in the sales ad.
and use those as a comparison truck.
Now it is a tedious job to match line by line (printed copies) which is the way I do it.
There are programs out that do this for you, I tried one and it kept crashing or not getting the list to compare correctly.

Note: There are quite a few Hex-Codes that will be different as they are VIN # Related

Here is the As-Built Data Link:

Index - FordServiceInfo.Com (motorcraftservice.com)

So just thinking. The as built that I would look at based on my VIN would be without the ASS because that’s how it came from the factory correct? Or would it be different because they deleted it after the fact? If after the fact then I may be able to see something but if it’s the same as when I bought it then it wouldn’t matter unless I had the VIN of another same year same model with ASS to compare too aah never mind I see that you were saying the same thing

 

[airline tech]

No the As-Built files are exactly how it left the Factory.
I did find a few other lines related to ASS that are different and am still weeding through the files.

 

[Scottlane1171]

No the As-Built files are exactly how it left the Factory.
I did find a few other lines related to ASS that are different and am still weeding through the files.

Thanks I appreciate it

 

[airline tech]

Thus far this is all I can find on NOTED differences between a ASS and NON ASS Truck

I cannot Find a breakdown of the PCM - Module Addresses (7EO)

My References:

As-Built Data - (Side by Side compare for exact trucks with ASS and Without ASS

There is no known spreadsheet specific to the Ranger, so we have to use other models and cypher the data.
Forscan (F-150) Spreadsheet - To get breakdown of the Data Strings (Ref)
Cyan Labs - As-Built Data - Secondary Breakdown of Data Strings (Ref)


These are the Modules that stand out as compared different and I can find a valid specific data change highlighting an (Auto-Start/Stop) Input and remain consistent for numerous As-Built data Comparisions.

NOTE: To help with comparing data, if you look at the last (2) Hex Codes of any line, this is the Checksum of the data line, any changes on the data line will change this:
Example:

XXXX-XXXX-XX?? - The (??) is a clear indicator that the data line is different on that specific line.

Hex Lines that show differences between (2) exact configured trucks are Vin # related as follows.

Just a reference here to help weed out differences.
These are all Vin # Related

FCIM: (Front Control Interface Module)
7A7-02
-01 (VIN 1-5)
-02 (VIN 6-10)
-03 (VIN 11-15)
-04 (VIN 16-17)

SODL: (Side Obstacle Detection Left)
7C4-08-01 - (VIN 1-6)
-09-01 (VIN 7-12)
-10-01 (VIN 13-17)

SODR: (Side Obstacle Detection Right)
7C6-08-01 (VIN 1-6)
-09-01 (VIN 7-12)
-10-01 (VIN 13-17)

BCM: (Body Control Module)
726-09-01 (VIN 1-5)
-10-01 - (VIN 7-11)
-10-02 (VIN 12)
-11-01 (VIN 13-17)

RCM: (Restraint Control Module)
737-01-01 (VIN 1-5)
-02 (VIN 6-10)
-03 (VIN 11-15)
-04 (VIN 6-17)

ABS: (Anti-Lock Braking System)
760-01-01 (VIN 1-5)
-02 (VIN 6-10)
-03 (VIN 11-15)
-04 (VIN 16-17)


These are the noted differences between Trucks (with and w/o ASS)

Now one would assume that the PCM would have an input for ASS (Enable or Disable)
but since I cannot find a breakdown like the rest of the modules this is a hit or miss if all of these changes will bring back the ASS to full working status.

NOTE: I highly recommend you back up As-Built modules before you change them,
I however like to detail write down what I am doing, for a true visual on the Hex-Code I am changing.
I have an Excell Spreadsheet for every change I make and the reason for it (what it does)
any issues I can change it back with a verified code to OE data.

So, with that said these are all the codes that I can see with multiple Comparisions between trucks and found a relation to the ASS system.
I however cannot locate any information for the PCM (7EO) to see if any line or code is relating to the ASS.
So, it may be possible the PCM is getting all the necessity inputs from the other modules for control. (Unknown and Unproven at this time)

Another unknown for me without hooking up Forscan is will all these modules allow a re-write and change (they may be greyed out)

But it is worth a try just to see if these UNTESTED changes will work to get the Auto-Stop / Start back to work again with the added switch that was deleted.

FCIM: (Front Controls Interface Module)
7A7-01-01
0076-80DC-1496 (Disabled) - (81DC-Enabled)

APIM: (Accessory Protocol Interface Module)
7DO-01-02
020A-0000-886E (Disabled) - (022A-Enabled)

IPM: (Image Processing Module)
706-01-02
2075-5515-A5B4 (Disabled) - (5535-Enabled)

IPC: (Instrument Panel Cluster)
720-01-01
2F0F-1464-7251 (Disabled) - (3464 - Enabled)

PSCM: (Power Steering Control Module)
730-01-02
0001-0101-003D (Disabled) - (013E - Enabled)

PAM: (Parking Assist Module)
736-02-01
0400-0900-4D (Disabled) - (4400 - Enabled)

DSP: (Digitial Process Module)
783-01-01
C445-0095 (Disabled) - (C645 - Enabled)

BCM: (Body Control Module)
726-48-02
0100-0000-0179 (Match- Disabled & Enabled)

If you find anything that I missed, please post.

 

[Scottlane1171]

This is awesome. Thank you so much. I have one question. When you say vin related at the beginning of this message, I’m thinking example vin number 1-5 = 01 as the last 2 digits of the hex code. What part of the vin are you referencing to get that number

 

[Scottlane1171]

Also I do not have the dsp

 

[airline tech]

This is awesome. Thank you so much. I have one question. When you say vin related at the beginning of this message, I’m thinking example vin number 1-5 = 01 as the last 2 digits of the hex code. What part of the vin are you referencing to get that number

Example:
I typed it that way for easier understanding and display

FCIM: (Front Control Interface Module)
7A7-02
-01 (VIN 1-5)
-02 (VIN 6-10)
-03 (VIN 11-15)
-04 (VIN 16-17)

So: Block 7A7-02-01 = The Vin ID Code in Hexadecimal Format the first 5 (1FTER)
When you are cross ref checking from truck to truck - you will see quite a few lines that do not match.
So, I dug into these and determined that these are going to be different due to the Vin#
This is the Vehicle ID #

and
the 1FTER in Hex Code = 3146-5445-5213 - (The last (2) hex codes (13) is the check sum for the rest of the line
The actual Hex Code for 1FTER = 3146-5445-52

This will help you understand:

AsBuilt Databases - CyanLabs

CAUTION: DO NOT CLICK on anything that says download or view manual or it will download a unwanted browser extension - Clear App
Ask me how I know?
Took me some time to get it off my computer.

View Database is ok. - Click on VIEW DATABASE and then (X) out of the pop-up that is starring you in the face.
Once that Pop-Up is out of the way, you can see the database information.
This will give you an idea of what the Hex-Code breakdown is for various Ford Models, not entirely specific to the Ranger - you have to do some theory-based deductions and match to what your actual As-Built data is.

 

[airline tech]

It appears that the PCM 7E0-165 Blocks are for Transmission ID Blocks referencing the F-150 Spreadsheet 21-23, I did not know it was updated for other model years.
I scanned through it some and noted that some of the Hex Code blocks do not match the Ranger anyway.
The majority of those do not match Truck to Truck, so nothing stands out.

The F-150 (15-20) does somewhat match and is a good reference compared to the Ranger.

 

[JJBB33]

2021 Tremor. I just disconnected it from the battery. Everything else works fine.

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