No more Camaro

[Muffin1]

I spoke with a local to me dealer yesterday his allocations for '23 have been few and far between as for custom orders, may have to settle for something that comes in with or without particular options i was looking for and look outside my state.
Also '24 MY is only going to be a 6 month build time frame.
But i have this 2015 RS to hold me over.

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[GitRDone]

Boy I'm sure excited for the electric CamEro, aren't you all?

No, but the new E-Ray Vette looks like a winner. Chevy had a nice cutaway display of the car at the Sebring 12 Hours.

 

[YaBoiNewton]

Its fun watching modern mini-vans out perform classic muscle cars at the the local dragstrip. I suspect if I attended some auto-cross events the results would likely be the same.

"No replacement for displacement!"

- some guy driving a 200hp V8

 

[YaBoiNewton]

Old muscle in stock form is not as powerful, doesn't handle or stop as well as modern muscle but it is not hard to make them run, handle and stop as well.

New muscle is also pretty weak on the track when stock. Especially the massive Dodge twins. My '08 mustang is making ~400hp at the wheels and it pretty much destroys most other modern cars off the line, but I'm not winning on the track without some major suspension work. It'd be even worse without the supercharger.

 

[Wablackwell22]

A lot of cool looking dudes in mini vans no doubt.

I'm excited to see what this new electric C8 SUV is/does/looks like when it comes out in what, '25?

 

[HenryMac]

Here's our '69.

I'm in my early 60's and grew up in the 1st muscle car era. I could really care less that the Camaro is, again, out of production. They never made one after about 1979 that I liked.

Our's is a numbers matching Super Sport. I added tri-y-headers, purple horny header mufflers, traction bars and the American Racing Wheels and Mickey Thompson big and littles.

It still has it's original AM radio. I found a nos Radio Shack FM converter. Basically I set it up the way we did back in the late 1970's.

It's a manual 3 speed... and it's a time machine, wrapped in Olympic Gold paint.

Glory Days...

 

[JasonTremor]

Sad to see Camaro production ending. With the Dodge Challenger and Camaro ending production, the era of the modern muscle car is over. Personally, I'm strangely looking forward to testing the waters on a Toyota Corolla GR or a Zupra with the manual transmission.

 

[MrBirdman330]

Funny you mention autocross. Few years back I was at the Syracuse Nationals Car Show. Jet Hot was sponsoring an autocross.

There were a bunch of 60s muscle cars entered and a bunch of turbo imports. The import guys were all talking smack about how they were going to embarrass the muscle cars.

Well it turned out that the fastest muscle cars were about 3 seconds faster than the fastest imports around that course. There was even a young lady driving an early 60s Nova station wagon that put the hurt on the imports. Now the muscle cars were far from stock but most all the imports were modified to. The import folks weren't talking smack the next day.

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine. He races his 67 Barracuda in SCCA competition. He was at an open track day and a guy with a Miata was being very vocal at the drivers meeting that the old "sh#$" boxes should not be allowed on the track, they will just hold everyone else up. He decided to teach him a lesson and followed the guy out onto the track and blew by him going into the first corner and proceeded to lap him about 3 times in that session.

Old muscle in stock form is not as powerful, doesn't handle or stop as well as modern muscle but it is not hard to make them run, handle and stop as well.

Had a 77' F350 ex-uhaul custom built for the company. That thing lit up could go from 0 to 55mph faster than most modern muscle out today.

 

[TJC]

Its fun watching modern mini-vans out perform classic muscle cars at the the local dragstrip. I suspect if I attended some auto-cross events the results would likely be the same.

I love the styling of the 58-62 Corvette Convertibles, but most could only manage 6-7.6 second 0-60 times and most any 10 year old mini van will generally out perform them from a handling perspective, and in 0-60 speed as well.

But absolutely nothing holds a candlestick to their styling - inside and out! These are automobiles to be seen in and cruise with the top down. I was driving Deals Gap east in my supercharged 1993 Miata LE, and ran up on a Silver 58 Corvette convertible with white inlay and red interior, cruising through the twisties - very slowly - enjoying the scenery. There is no where to pass, so I settled in behind him for 6 miles and admired the artistry of the car. So very elegant and graceful! Esp the 58-60's with the inlaid tail light at the crest of the fenders. If I had the garage space I'd buy one today!

 

[GitRDone]

I'm excited to see what this new electric C8 SUV is/does/looks like when it comes out in what, '25?

Here ya go:

 

[Dgc333]

Had a 77' F350 ex-uhaul custom built for the company. That thing lit up could go from 0 to 55mph faster than most modern muscle out today.

With enough money and skill you can make anything fast. All the U-Tube videos of the "Farm Truck" launching wheels up and blowing the doors off million dollar exotics is testament to that. A buddy of mine had a 78 F250 with a 460 he used to haul his horse trailer with. That thing had enough torque to effect the rotation of the earth but it was butt slow even compared to cars of the day. Modern muscle cars are pushing 650HP to 840HP and the last hoorah Challenger is over 1000HP. These cars run 9 second 1/4 mile times at over 130 mph. Modern Muscle cars are the most powerful, fastest accelerating and best handling American production cars in history.

 

[MrBirdman330]

With enough money and skill you can make anything fast. All the U-Tube videos of the "Farm Truck" launching wheels up and blowing the doors off million dollar exotics is testament to that. A buddy of mine had a 78 F250 with a 460 he used to haul his horse trailer with. That thing had enough torque to effect the rotation of the earth but it was butt slow even compared to cars of the day. Modern muscle cars are pushing 650HP to 840HP and the last hoorah Challenger is over 1000HP. These cars run 9 second 1/4 mile times at over 130 mph. Modern Muscle cars are the most powerful, fastest accelerating and best handling American production cars in history.

Highschool buddy of mine had a 78' blue and white two tone king cab F250 with the 460. At night we would take that thing out and plant the speedo in the ground on the interstate passing traffic like it was standing still. In town he would put lowriders to shame as he could put that nose straight up just blipping the throttle. Highschool memories.

 

[Wablackwell22]

Here ya go:

Yeah I actually saw that the other day. the E-ray looks amazing. I was talking about the C8 SUV that Chevy is supposedly working on to compete with the Uros. They're supposed to be working on a sedan as well.

Obviously these are just artist renderings but:

https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/corvette-suv

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