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Thanks for the advice. That goes for everyone. Already going to scratch this RV (22MKS). The 186BH Apex Nano seems to bit at least a bit better. Roughly 800 pounds lighter, 4 ft shorter, 7.5ft wide, and 139 pounds lighter on the hitch. Still checks all the boxes that we are looking for. Would you say this is still a stretch for size? Or would that bit of difference make a HUGE difference?
Yes, In my opinion, this would be a better choice than the first. A little more overhead on the weight ratings. And the shorter length will help with maneuvering. Just make sure to get a PROPERLY sized and setup WDH with sway control along with a good brake controller. Lots of good threads discussing this. Keep it under 70 on the highway, under 65 even better. Your mileage is going to suck anyway.
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Not wanting to get into an argument, but when did I say you were wrong? I just said I did not understand what the picture you posted was supposed to be showing me. I then went on to explain what my understanding and experience was of rear view cameras, and the Ranger mirrors with a wide TT.

Where is the camera(s) mounted? One for each side? Near the front of the trailer? If that is the case that is not a normal rear view camera setup.
Camera is mounted up near roofline at rear of trailer. Angled down with 120 degree view. Pretty much shows me everything off the corners of the trailer. So anything the camera doesn’t see is in my rear view mirror already. Saying that vehicles are in my rear view mirror before leaving camera view. It takes some getting used to but so does everything else. So the picture the F150 in my garage would also be in my mirror if that makes sense. Sorry if I came across harsh.
 

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Not wanting to get into an argument, but when did I say you were wrong? I just said I did not understand what the picture you posted was supposed to be showing me. I then went on to explain what my understanding and experience was of rear view cameras, and the Ranger mirrors with a wide TT.

Where is the camera(s) mounted? One for each side? Near the front of the trailer? If that is the case that is not a normal rear view camera setup.
Also noticed OP’s trailer width is 96”. Ours is 88” so yes there would be a difference. Missed that the first time around
 

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Thanks for the advice. That goes for everyone. Already going to scratch this RV (22MKS). The 186BH Apex Nano seems to bit at least a bit better. Roughly 800 pounds lighter, 4 ft shorter, 7.5ft wide, and 139 pounds lighter on the hitch. Still checks all the boxes that we are looking for. Would you say this is still a stretch for size? Or would that bit of difference make a HUGE difference?
We’re pulling a Surveyor 19BHLE which looks close to that .
 

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Passport width with mirrors is 78.6”. Ranger width shows 85.8”. So Ranger mirrors should work even better
The trailer the OP was looking at was 96" exterior width, so not much help
 


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Camera is mounted up near roofline at rear of trailer. Angled down with 120 degree view. Pretty much shows me everything off the corners of the trailer. So anything the camera doesn’t see is in my rear view mirror already. Saying that vehicles are in my rear view mirror before leaving camera view. It takes some getting used to but so does everything else. So the picture the F150 in my garage would also be in my mirror if that makes sense. Sorry if I came across harsh.
That makes sense. Now that I look at it again with your explanation. The picture you posted is a liitle confusing as it looks like you have the trailer backed up to something on one side, blocking that side of the camera, and I don’t see any part of the trailer for reference.
 

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That makes sense. Now that I look at it again with your explanation. The picture you posted is a liitle confusing as it looks like you have the trailer backed up to something on one side, blocking that side of the camera, and I don’t see any part of the trailer for reference.
Yeah that is a VertiYak kayak rack with 2 11’6” kayaks trailer bumper mounted. That goes away once we’re pulling with the Tremor. Kayaks will be on a bed rack instead.
 

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That makes sense. Now that I look at it again with your explanation. The picture you posted is a liitle confusing as it looks like you have the trailer backed up to something on one side, blocking that side of the camera, and I don’t see any part of the trailer for reference.
For reference
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For reference
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That helps even more. I also can see where it would take some getting use to though. Having a single monitor showing vehicles coming at you. While the view out the front window is vehicles traveling with you. Also still need the wider mirrors with a wider trailer.
 

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Real question is....

What mods have you all made for towing??
Sway bars, bump stops, shocks leaf springs, torsion hitch, better leafs for trailers.......?
Everyone does stuff for off road, but what about towing?
So far my truck is stock, and it tows great! What can make it better?
 

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I have no blind spots whatsoever. Mirrors pick up traffic that also shows up on monitor. Towed all last summer with our Passport and never had any issues.
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Is that the stock XLT dash?

Haven't seen a display like that for HVAC.
 

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Real question is....

What mods have you all made for towing??
Sway bars, bump stops, shocks leaf springs, torsion hitch, better leafs for trailers.......?
Everyone does stuff for off road, but what about towing?
So far my truck is stock, and it tows great! What can make it better?
A lot depends on what you are towing and how often and how far. Towing a travel trailer on a cross country vacation is a whole different animal from towing a track car on a flat bed or a box trailer a couple hours or less for a race. Or the once or twice a year trip to the yard store for mulch.

First question does the trailer have/need brakes. Does it need a controller.

For trip to the yard store: not much else than a hitch with the proper drop and ball size.

For towing a boat, a flat bed or a box trailer: Probably not much more. Probably new rear shocks. Maybe a friction sway bar. Depending on weight, frequency and distance of towing add a rear sway bar, helper leaves, air bags.

Now for a travel trailer: these are fr my experience towing a 4200# TT. Definitely upgraded shocks,at least the rear. A PROPERLY sized and setup weight distribution hitch with sway control. Weigh it at a CAT scale, with truck and trailer fully loaded for travel. This is so you know you are within all weight ratings for GCVWR, front and rear axle ratings, trailer axle weight, trailer GVWR and tongue weight. Oh yeah, if required extended tow mirrors so you can see the back corners of the trailer. Again based on weight and if you feel necessary rear sway bar, helpersprings or air bags.

I'm sure other people will have additions or deletions or opinions to these lists. These are mine.
 

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New to RV's. I wanted to post this RV spec sheet to hear all sides on if it would be safe to pull with the 2022 Ranger(Tow Package, 4x4, OEM brake controller, and WDH). I think my big concern is the Tongue weight and would I quickly go over the 750-pound limit. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated. I have two adults, two little ones, and two dogs. All combined weight of fewer than 600 pounds. Almost all cargo would be in the RV after that.
Well, TECHNICALLY it would probably exceed 750lb tongue weight once you factor the weight of the WDH and full propane tanks. Ignoring that, I think some have a point about being a tough trailer to start with on a mid size truck. Keeping the bed empty will help a little I suspect. I run into the problem of my tongue weight within range but have more in the bed than I would like.

I tow a Geo Pro 19BH which is a single axle. I have been towing for 2yrs now but the 19BH for only a year. Took some time to get comfortable with cross winds and such. The truck does just fine once you get used to it and know how things behave. Just coming back from Utah today we had some 20-30mph cross winds and I felt safe at 65-70mph. A year ago, I would have been slowing down to 55mph immediately. I would consider myself definitely above average driving ability, just was new to towing which was a whole new world.

So, just expect a learning curve at the very least. Oh, and 1" wheel spacers made a noticeable stability improvement too!

Have you seen this model? Might do the trick for you and get you into something smaller and lighter.
https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/travel-trailers/surveyor-legend/19MDBLE/5883
 
 








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